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Subject: AW: [PHP-DEV][RFC][DISCUSSION] Group Use Declarations
From: php@tutteli.ch ("Robert Stoll")



> -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Markus Fischer [mailto:markus@fischer.name]
> Gesendet: Samstag, 31. Januar 2015 16:11
> An: internals@lists.php.net
> Betreff: Re: [PHP-DEV][RFC][DISCUSSION] Group Use Declarations
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> On 31.01.15 01:09, Marcio Almada wrote:
> > After a period of research along with part of the PHP community I'd
> > like to present this RFC which aims to improve PHP namespaces.
> >
> > The RFC: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/group_use_declarations
> > Along with its pull request: =
https://github.com/php/php-src/pull/1005
> >
> > Needless to say, I'm open to suggestions that could improve the =
proposal.
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> The RFC says:
> "Group use statements makes it easier to identify that multiple =
imported entities are from the same module."
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> IMHO that's too subjective. What "is hard" with the current state of =
affairs?
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> Btw, here's a CON you can add to the RFC (and, btw., it doesn't =
contain
> any):
> - Prevents searching sources literally for used namespaces
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> Another observation thing from my side: with proper tooling I almost =
can't remember when I wrote the statements by
> hand; they usually a) get automatically managed b) thus alphabetically =
sorted and c) folded away in general.
>
> What is the real benefit of using groups it and who's the group =
benefiting from that change? Maybe you can expand on
> that in the RFC.
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> sincerely,
> - Markus
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[Robert Stoll]=20
I agree with Markus, the benefits for users which are using IDEs is =
marginal. But I suppose all other users could actually benefit from it. =
Yet, with the drawback described by Markus - searching for use =
statements without a clever IDE will be more difficult. Anyway, thinking =
in terms of scripting it seems to be a nice feature. Therefore +1=20