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Cc: Yasuo Ohgaki <yohgaki@ohgaki.net>,
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Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2015 09:43:04 +0000
To: Florian Anderiasch <ml@anderiasch.de>
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Is it a good idea to have a "strict" mode?
From: ajf@ajf.me (Andrea Faulds)

Hi,

> On 30 Jan 2015, at 09:14, Florian Anderiasch <ml@anderiasch.de> wrote:
>=20
>=20
>=20
>> On 01/30/2015 06:36 AM, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote:
>> Hi Cesar,
>>=20
>>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 2:16 PM, C=A8=A6sar Rodas <cesar@rodas.me> wrote=
:
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>>> I'm wondering if it would be a good idea to have a `strict` mode in PHP.=

>>> Many language have them and it is a good idea.
>>>=20
>>> I think it should be a bit different in PHP, it should encourage the
>>> following things:
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>>> - Avoid deprecated things, it should throw an exception.
>>> - Avoid explicit conversions of undefined constants to strings.
>>> - Anything else that could make run-time slower *or* bad practice.
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>>> ```php
>>> "use strict";
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>>> var_dump(FOOBAR); // should throw an exception, undefined constant.
>>> ```
>>=20
>> We have error_reporting INI for this purpose.
>> Users may be strict or lazy for errors by the INI setting.
>=20
> I don't think it's a good idea to have a strict mode at all. I'd prefer
> any language to be strict and unambiguous enough from the start. Adding
> strict mode after the fact is just a band aid. PHP's error reporting
> level isn't that bad, but if you're ignoring legacy code there's hardly
> a reason not to develop to the strictest standard possible.
>=20
> ~Florian
>=20
> --=20
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I agree. Use error handlers.


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