Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:81369 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 49041 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2015 11:06:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 Jan 2015 11:06:28 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=narf@devilix.net; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=narf@devilix.net; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain devilix.net designates 209.85.218.45 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: narf@devilix.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.218.45 mail-oi0-f45.google.com Received: from [209.85.218.45] ([209.85.218.45:64379] helo=mail-oi0-f45.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id B6/37-09212-3341AC45 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2015 06:06:28 -0500 Received: by mail-oi0-f45.google.com with SMTP id g201so25505485oib.4 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2015 03:06:24 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=devilix.net; s=google; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=ckS8N3pdxMKle2X6k8grGSbYr9duyvHBxoNRVsc7hJc=; b=hcJKeff59jtITIns9IrIaNwtqstaBrIh6j+yv7V2Q4J4N9M/X+6etuxP1N7Lpr8IpO aZtjxti+kdLGjRcQUEd7GGHQFPUXvBc9bAPhRSBB51GZXSyMK8Q74Qiz5MKjIAmMbqSb o1aIheTQmRurBMFIPIKtqF4Mpl3xHiWoxMs5Q= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ckS8N3pdxMKle2X6k8grGSbYr9duyvHBxoNRVsc7hJc=; b=B0ZaAa2YMrYCB6/PfLZH/widfBbuIdqUJkw3AKTHs7uLdQSqhp3IsXBLA8KsX32Fpj ia5BbQc09DDArQix92DRwmgQ81/4uDXSRcp9qgf3GvLRXFMK1Gv889w6NE0WM0Q2VLE4 QrvJZpnL8kmVca3XcR9q1zrxG5do4gx2z3kB0IxOXid9ca5kmYotrt8qV6Qqy01XSw7W 15gqWg8Xui2vU2XZ2j+wMnRWmYklg7DM0VnOL8pemSWvGLbbvaUHLJrRMEk4tTIGiykf o5NXnFd940wRpbifpwUWxo+9z08UJZusBaw7BBbFjFwzRAKdySaH6xRXSqZq4Ik1b+QS m3kQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlcX4UxunoAN0gwItiW+gR18WVVum2cnX9rJnMlVO6R+bm1gz992Z+WGtzo7bfDfKNkvBa6 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.202.4 with SMTP id a4mr4912541oig.5.1422529584279; Thu, 29 Jan 2015 03:06:24 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.202.214.205 with HTTP; Thu, 29 Jan 2015 03:06:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <54CA10D0.3030003@beccati.com> References: <54C8D36E.7010803@php.net> <54C9338A.7020202@beccati.com> <54C9363D.6090102@php.net> <54C94A9D.8000904@beccati.com> <54C9E5CC.8010607@beccati.com> <54CA10D0.3030003@beccati.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 13:06:24 +0200 Message-ID: To: Matteo Beccati Cc: Michael Wallner , PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] pecl_http From: narf@devilix.net (Andrey Andreev) Hi, On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Matteo Beccati wrote: > Hi Andrey, > > On 29/01/2015 10:41, Andrey Andreev wrote: >> >> It's not about whether we like the FIG's direction or what "PSR" >> stands for (which doesn't make sense btw) - that is indeed OT. >> >> My message was different: the PHP RFC process can't get blocked >> because of a third-party group, especially if your reasoning for that >> is to follow "standards" which aren't standards at all. >> >> Anyway, hopefully there will be more details on this RFC once voting >> is restarted so we don't have to have such silly arguments. > > > I'm not sure why you're turning this into a crusade against FIG and PSRs. > Your argument is valid, but I'm afraid that's the message you conveyed much > louder than the actual argument itself. > My last message was intended to clarify that this is *not* a rant about the FIG or PSRs, but a concern about proper reasoning in votes. I didn't want to have another reply because this is all off-topic at this point, but now you insist that I am in fact having a crusade against PHP-FIG - I'm not, sorry if that wasn't clear enough. Let's leave it at that please. Cheers, Andrey.