Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:81356 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 14570 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2015 07:48:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 Jan 2015 07:48:49 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=php@beccati.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=php@beccati.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain beccati.com designates 176.9.114.167 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: php@beccati.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 176.9.114.167 spritz.beccati.com Received: from [176.9.114.167] ([176.9.114.167:41228] helo=mail.beccati.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id B8/C0-09212-ED5E9C45 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2015 02:48:48 -0500 Received: (qmail 13095 invoked from network); 29 Jan 2015 07:48:42 -0000 Received: from home.beccati.com (HELO ?192.168.1.202?) (88.149.176.119) by mail.beccati.com with SMTP; 29 Jan 2015 07:48:42 -0000 Message-ID: <54C9E5CC.8010607@beccati.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 08:48:28 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrey Andreev CC: Michael Wallner , PHP Internals References: <54C8D36E.7010803@php.net> <54C9338A.7020202@beccati.com> <54C9363D.6090102@php.net> <54C94A9D.8000904@beccati.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] pecl_http From: php@beccati.com (Matteo Beccati) Hi Andrey, On 28/01/2015 23:50, Andrey Andreev wrote: > You're voting "no" because the FIG can't agree yet? > They've been discussing this for *at least* an year and iirc the first > PSR-7 coordinator gave up on it because he no longer believed in the > end result. What does that tell us? That some actual work is finally being done now. Whether or not you, I or everyone else likes the direction it is going. > I'm not saying that you should vote "yes", but it's one thing to look > at the FIG for opinions/suggestions/inspiration and completely > different if you imply that they should dictate how a PHP core > extension is implemented. Indeed. But I am aware that an effort to have common Request/Response interfaces is under way and I'd like to see how that goes (opinions/suggestions/inspiration) before marrying to a specific, possibly incompatible, implementation (pecl_http in core). > PHP-FIG is not an authority and I too am quite annoyed by the > excessive usage of the word "standard" when referring to a "PSR". They > are not standards, they are recommendations written by a > self-appointed group of people and mostly for their own usage. A group > of mostly very smart people indeed, and important figures in the PHP > community too, but not an authority. Sure, "S" in PSR stands for Starndard, but "R" means Recommendation, but this is going slightly OT. Cheers -- Matteo Beccati Development & Consulting - http://www.beccati.com/