Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:81327 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 16437 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2015 19:19:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Jan 2015 19:19:32 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mike.php.net@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mike.php.net@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.173 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mike.php.net@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.173 mail-we0-f173.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.173] ([74.125.82.173:46481] helo=mail-we0-f173.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 05/89-44076-14639C45 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 14:19:30 -0500 Received: by mail-we0-f173.google.com with SMTP id w62so22719746wes.4 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 11:19:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=sender:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DBLlyb5RqgTqDx1Xb0RxiJxjQL5X9+ot8XX0jHwmbUM=; b=l/Q2iw1Ky8RwRRQbAx01AKu0+4syJzeZJODSyvX+DeNQRN9+FuRDfX8WjN5QK9VN6N LtIy9JucZZG6+tdnGP5u9qE9UUwMePsq085uacN0IZ/24BdIEGnlsgOr6Dk9x6O2YuUJ P/i+XTImwNU7SgrVnFP9MeWxMOnt8IKmahxPOO/VlAFTAz2FbppYw28qLW1DDeAvw205 F1eCRjsYmc9K5EGhjM9U6FUiron6X4QRjGGJcSucV63LxdB+/7iEOlmtOSXh/6ILYl9k ZIrVbEpDmWtBkdLNHPINqXQyx1jrsAHCa0Z4SXYCgyYyO4fMMsNj9eOiukz5Rv4EPINw CFkQ== X-Received: by 10.180.8.35 with SMTP id o3mr10294643wia.60.1422472766879; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 11:19:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.120] (89-104-28-113.customer.bnet.at. [89.104.28.113]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id cy8sm4055048wib.9.2015.01.28.11.19.25 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 28 Jan 2015 11:19:26 -0800 (PST) Sender: Michael Wallner Message-ID: <54C9363D.6090102@php.net> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 20:19:25 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Matteo Beccati , PHP Internals References: <54C8D36E.7010803@php.net> <54C9338A.7020202@beccati.com> In-Reply-To: <54C9338A.7020202@beccati.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] pecl_http From: mike@php.net (Michael Wallner) On 28/01/15 20:07, Matteo Beccati wrote: > On 28/01/2015 13:17, Michael Wallner wrote: >> Discussion has been very low on this topic since it was proposed on >> August 19th, so I just opened the vote on the RFC whether to add >> pecl_http to the core. The vote will be open until about 12:00 UTC on >> Friday, February 6th. >> >> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/pecl_http#vote > > Disclaimer: I'm not going to discuss the merits of the extension itself. > I've never used it but I'm sure it's perfectly doing its job. > > As Nikita mentions, PSR-7 is under way and currently gaining some > traction. At the moment the PSR-7 interfaces are designed to be > immutable, although I that's still open for debate. If the RFC passes, > we'd be taking a fairly strong position and pushing the current > pecl_http implementation as a de-facto standard. Sure, PHP-FIG would > still be free to come up with their own standard, but it just doesn't > seem much fair to me. Why is everybody so obssessed by the word "standard"? What is "fair" supposed to mean in this regard? Doesn't FIG stand for Framework Interoperability Group? I've been there and wanted to start a discussion on the topic, but without success. > Also, we're planning to move extensions from core to pecl, for example > ext/mysql which I is still widely used by many applications, despite its > known shortcomings. TBH, I don't see many reasons why a pecl extension > should be moved to core. So that basically means, there shouldn't be any extension added to the core any more, or only PECL ones? > That's basically why I voted no earlier today. Okay. -- Regards, Mike