Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:81317 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 99272 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2015 17:58:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Jan 2015 17:58:15 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=morrison.levi@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=morrison.levi@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.181 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: morrison.levi@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.181 mail-ob0-f181.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.181] ([209.85.214.181:47727] helo=mail-ob0-f181.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 2E/16-44076-63329C45 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 12:58:14 -0500 Received: by mail-ob0-f181.google.com with SMTP id wo20so2723357obc.12 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 09:58:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=FAhwhtaVKAz5wfnpplHHaZKskXDm4ofbUEifTmVtN5g=; b=jwo3HWuzkLay/YhTuLAzswQYxvwPW62UlIQRtustrXRF3RUzDJIDOa3iOHKADnx9MH PM/xhxsJ96gQc6WSEGrjfObUhuZhXxcwX7j6bM8WKKsepgB95DK9hCqK+zkRqlV+Vepm 8geLtKiQn3+Dq80SW9Lg7D2F8Rlf543B3tkqgdBsATYth7n9GtNvy2V4M4eCLCu8+KvV RVYn3Xpxy/vxJn/Rby2bTfb9ok77oPkHbGUIv5pR11TaFi2gOHuvpWhYJXqc7xnk/nCm MTeg+jyfPzCnlvXOGF/nfskIvvFILQeNrcC0APCZC1FP5wefGehpb70BD7FHCctLwusx GM5A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.178.131 with SMTP id b125mr2805369oif.80.1422467890876; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 09:58:10 -0800 (PST) Sender: morrison.levi@gmail.com Received: by 10.76.103.37 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 09:58:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <54C8D36E.7010803@php.net> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 10:58:10 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 3EQSlUQ6lFrVWU1a2h-g6UJ2ZaI Message-ID: To: Michael Wallner Cc: PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113b7e9c571739050dba1de7 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] pecl_http From: levim@php.net (Levi Morrison) --001a113b7e9c571739050dba1de7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 10:53 AM, Levi Morrison wrote: > Discussion has been very low on this topic since it was proposed on >> August 19th, so I just opened the vote on the RFC whether to add >> pecl_http to the core. The vote will be open until about 12:00 UTC on >> Friday, February 6th. >> >> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/pecl_http#vote > > > I wish you had pinged the list before opening the vote. I know there were > a few people who wanted to make comments but have just been very busy. For > example, I have been dealing with the return types RFC which has soaked up > all of the time I have for working on PHP projects. > > Some feedback: I feel the RFC is not clear about the advantages and > disadvantages of including this package. Mostly, the RFC is "hey I have > this package can we include it in core?" I feel like it's fairly incomplete > as to *why* we should include it. There is a fair amount of work done in > user-land for these types of utilities, and I think without a more balanced > discussion we'd be giving this extension a distinct advantage. > > If we allow it to remain in voting phase despite these issues, I have to > vote no simply because I don't feel like there is enough information > presented in the RFC for anyone except current pecl_http users to make a > good decision; that's hardly a good situation for the language as a whole. > > Oh, one more item: has anyone had time to review the pieces and how they all interact, as well as reviewing the quality of each component? I should hardly think in the time given this has been done. I'm not saying this extension is bad; I am saying that I don't think there's been time for anyone to properly evaluate whether it is or not. --001a113b7e9c571739050dba1de7--