Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:81316 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 97742 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2015 17:53:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 Jan 2015 17:53:10 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=morrison.levi@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=morrison.levi@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.181 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: morrison.levi@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.181 mail-ob0-f181.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.181] ([209.85.214.181:48938] helo=mail-ob0-f181.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 19/C5-44076-50229C45 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 12:53:09 -0500 Received: by mail-ob0-f181.google.com with SMTP id wo20so2696412obc.12 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 09:53:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=b1bNECklDOHD7z3M0HrM6W+86xvx2VmGulpDMykcUHk=; b=xjw43bKwKxYbtFabPV5KC7Aym3anMC8+SIrIWjG4r89LzljjE2OZqRZD0Z2gj/uMNI /20RAm60/cjNP7V0zkbOzRcy4rb4dQHSzl0E1Je/NBvqhH4yUEH57UVOBubfAo2HPel7 fDIb8L9ejvwTEhVn2/QJmFF8Wk7W4tysoy0AV1AYpYLs0GYzc+KbJLjLrTKf716NSpbb Zrc+kL2sraABNtNYnL1fIqrxNLmNk2wKwmmOZygdpFAljlRqbP2vr1n9fXIWLgzLCFxs PBDfJW9cSgkiRcK4YgU2PVgyi/ZG3+M1XNTrYVsaMB/SxKBpBiwn7jQ2ADXLRkDHvE2H 4XSA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.251.138 with SMTP id zk10mr3001262obc.72.1422467586758; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 09:53:06 -0800 (PST) Sender: morrison.levi@gmail.com Received: by 10.76.103.37 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Jan 2015 09:53:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <54C8D36E.7010803@php.net> References: <54C8D36E.7010803@php.net> Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 10:53:06 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: LD9FwtNrF0jeS0DnBbxVrv4lakw Message-ID: To: Michael Wallner Cc: PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c1dada369fde050dba0bc0 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] [VOTE] pecl_http From: levim@php.net (Levi Morrison) --001a11c1dada369fde050dba0bc0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Discussion has been very low on this topic since it was proposed on > August 19th, so I just opened the vote on the RFC whether to add > pecl_http to the core. The vote will be open until about 12:00 UTC on > Friday, February 6th. > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/pecl_http#vote I wish you had pinged the list before opening the vote. I know there were a few people who wanted to make comments but have just been very busy. For example, I have been dealing with the return types RFC which has soaked up all of the time I have for working on PHP projects. Some feedback: I feel the RFC is not clear about the advantages and disadvantages of including this package. Mostly, the RFC is "hey I have this package can we include it in core?" I feel like it's fairly incomplete as to *why* we should include it. There is a fair amount of work done in user-land for these types of utilities, and I think without a more balanced discussion we'd be giving this extension a distinct advantage. If we allow it to remain in voting phase despite these issues, I have to vote no simply because I don't feel like there is enough information presented in the RFC for anyone except current pecl_http users to make a good decision; that's hardly a good situation for the language as a whole. --001a11c1dada369fde050dba0bc0--