Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:81136 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 10859 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2015 18:19:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Jan 2015 18:19:21 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.220.51 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.51 mail-pa0-f51.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.51] ([209.85.220.51:55859] helo=mail-pa0-f51.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D9/52-31595-8A335C45 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2015 13:19:21 -0500 Received: by mail-pa0-f51.google.com with SMTP id fb1so7404957pad.10 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2015 10:19:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BEdSf+ufIcfazFf8uuCigRAiCLo9YUu8ingA5eruVqk=; b=UZgeKvAx2V6adU0tIYJiAMLdrNaE6wBznLBvHjVOLhMCTRz1AnHhc1Oc42HkvWrljF P9mJJNkzuF6OMdGL/UOKUsQm36lLW2Ene61X/vtzTgpiXXfjo7vWQ45Rc+727Sx2ygBz zen/F91ddCd0omZOEcOxwFtojlSxm524TQZ9mtQQVm/fEtPlYtULosaVA42f9NcnfiNZ 1hHMRMvLj9ruLe36rCdsTUjApZxqSsxClr8GE8coxB1aJgAoHvfozBpy0d+dDkxQVV63 wzQeEvdU6XeFKFfWhGPx/W0+Vo6K2gf/hvQaQxbjGl9yQBY+MgYZgUHqvVzOiV8lWCdT PoPA== X-Received: by 10.70.93.41 with SMTP id cr9mr28462286pdb.154.1422209958113; Sun, 25 Jan 2015 10:19:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.102] (108-66-6-48.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net. [108.66.6.48]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id zs8sm7904659pac.9.2015.01.25.10.19.17 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 25 Jan 2015 10:19:17 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54C533A4.3090706@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 10:19:16 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Dragoonis CC: PHP Internals References: <54C4A44F.2030902@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Vote results for default ctors RFC From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > 2) I don't see a flood of people coming to the mailing list complaining > about this feature, so I'm not compelled to want it in the language. That's true for most features, and that's normal - in fact, I can't remember a feature or a fix where we had a flood of people coming to the list. And a pretty strange reason to refuse a new thing - nobody develops new things by sitting and waiting for people to complain enough about not having this exact thing. Apple didn't make iPhone because a lot of people came to them and asked them to make an iPhone. Of course, I'm not comparing my little RFC to a technological breakthrough, but the whole premise that new things can be made only when enough people complained about not having it sounds wrong to me. -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com