Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:81127 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 91592 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2015 15:44:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Jan 2015 15:44:59 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=danack@basereality.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=danack@basereality.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain basereality.com from 74.125.82.45 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: danack@basereality.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.45 mail-wg0-f45.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.45] ([74.125.82.45:59597] helo=mail-wg0-f45.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 9E/C7-36889-97F05C45 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2015 10:44:58 -0500 Received: by mail-wg0-f45.google.com with SMTP id x12so5218836wgg.4 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2015 07:44:54 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=5yyzNbNUGPhn3vaHXMwVUXkIeZuy0yV34mXcOPfQ2Dw=; b=RILFZ6IQTTLzu9C/0WbMwilTRwk4OH3UTDy4g4ilQ/lyiARpn32MzoJUHnZazZ8R5Z C11L+F7pyh7+xeVy+XJrlNEdN94ju/gHzKretqSzRgWnscivnzbbapKxMyI0BdULJmB5 vC7xCM8hKS+o0df+GpbH8deWfWm5mzPpTAIdGQJ530gPxL7F5qKecUgaXDsWXhjFDuDd lxO/xWAieYsZhqylb/IdswIXtpDm/bE8ueGf0cw+39k91Hd9NTNayE6/cCaPX48Cm0Hh 8Edno7GpZz7gODsWactUlqslIVcVmne0dweZRGTplXAHoJlV8GHg6LQ+DcWHaZLN8HY6 6lEA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQljtsR1b31RYRkdwq754DwVs1RCuHsdCjGdhsbSdEP/0t197KDFDMJS7EtCt/ZhdgiWh87w MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.109.9 with SMTP id ho9mr35323916wjb.29.1422200694550; Sun, 25 Jan 2015 07:44:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.216.94.196 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Jan 2015 07:44:54 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [2.96.84.64] In-Reply-To: References: <54C4A44F.2030902@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 15:44:54 +0000 Message-ID: To: Peter Cowburn Cc: Paul Dragoonis , Stanislav Malyshev , PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Vote results for default ctors RFC From: danack@basereality.com (Dan Ackroyd) On 25 January 2015 at 11:26, Peter Cowburn wrote: > That's what the mailing list threads are for, right? If someone has already said a reason on the list for why an RFC should be voted no, when someone else agrees with that reason it's not common for them to email, as it could be viewed as generating noise. Also having all the reasons why an RFC was declined in one place would make it easier to revisit RFCs in the future. It would allow people to see if RFCs were declined because people thought they were just a bad idea, or if there was a problem with a small detail of the RFC, without having to wade through email archives. However I think there is a strong risk of people having to give a reason why they voted no being abused, particularly if it is shown while the voting was taking place, as people could be harassed for choosing an 'invalid' reason to reject the RFC. cheers Dan