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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 11:26:18 +0000
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To: Paul Dragoonis <dragoonis@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Vote results for default ctors RFC
From: petercowburn@gmail.com (Peter Cowburn)

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On 25 January 2015 at 10:52, Paul Dragoonis <dragoonis@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Stas,
>
> Maybe a cool wiki feature addition is: once people vote they could
> optionally leave a comment right there on the wiki, which we could collect
> and read. Thoughts?
>

That's what the mailing list threads are for, right?  In the more distant
past, we did used to have individuals' comments on ideas in the wiki. If we
did want to go down that road again, (almost) everyone who can vote can
edit the wiki page to add their own thoughts right now.


>
> Here's my feedback for you on why i voted No.
>
> 1) It felt a bit too "magic" for me, with no real gain from an internal or
> userland perspective.
>
> 2) I don't see a flood of people coming to the mailing list complaining
> about this feature, so I'm not compelled to want it in the language.
>
> As always, thanks for your efforts.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 8:07 AM, Stanislav Malyshev <smalyshev@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > The vote for RFC https://wiki.php.net/rfc/default_ctor has been
> > concluded, with the result of 27 vs. 20. Since 2/3 majority is required
> > for acceptance, the RFC has been declined.
> >
> > I am a bit disappointed by the result, as I think it would be a good
> > change, but I am much more disappointed by the fact that that 20 people
> > voted against it and not even half of them - I would say maybe 1/5 of
> > them - chose to participate in discussion even minimally and explain
> > what is wrong with it in their opinion. I understand when everybody
> > agrees there's no need of the flood of +1s, vote is enough, but
> > disagreement by its nature is more diverse. I think not bothering to
> > discuss and then just voting "no" with no explanation is not how the
> > healthy RFC process should be working.
> >
> > --
> > Stas Malyshev
> > smalyshev@gmail.com
> >
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