Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:81119 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 69282 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2015 10:52:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Jan 2015 10:52:56 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=dragoonis@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=dragoonis@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.216.48 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: dragoonis@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.48 mail-qa0-f48.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.48] ([209.85.216.48:65040] helo=mail-qa0-f48.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A7/B4-36889-60BC4C45 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2015 05:52:54 -0500 Received: by mail-qa0-f48.google.com with SMTP id v8so3523062qal.7 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2015 02:52:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=aIUoAOUzW6EkkrTs/ndl2eac5KOFuaMmLWoadVyJQ5g=; b=d9pf4l56N6bxovHpksj5r+xHZc4hOrJGx/tdGGvVY8ZLGNfsP2xmtZ5wQAcoLSjHw3 uJQRwj4MKCZwpTeLoEDo7jlm5x7PDRPrMzhhpD9brl4MdIbNsLiW2R0yjssIt7X1OI5X FjD1omUE5J9YXJcVyEtT7ReNO/qH02hI2pXMntnAUh0iCIJKyM/W0JnO6Z23mfb9dMkD AknGU23z6MmWVoAR5VATE9LNUADN/0wWEGXGcYv7FWA0XXXKfLReiHjgVLy75p04/K0w b1se1Y4gmKFIOVvhWXzuFhdZQ5y8yPfdep767w0KyVyxu9FZ30no+O0hgfT9H2sWNPF/ 5gxw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.127.193 with SMTP id h1mr30958630qas.98.1422183170884; Sun, 25 Jan 2015 02:52:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.229.174.6 with HTTP; Sun, 25 Jan 2015 02:52:50 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <54C4A44F.2030902@gmail.com> References: <54C4A44F.2030902@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 10:52:50 +0000 Message-ID: To: Stanislav Malyshev Cc: PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1132ebe2b4cf45050d77d2bc Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Vote results for default ctors RFC From: dragoonis@gmail.com (Paul Dragoonis) --001a1132ebe2b4cf45050d77d2bc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Stas, Maybe a cool wiki feature addition is: once people vote they could optionally leave a comment right there on the wiki, which we could collect and read. Thoughts? Here's my feedback for you on why i voted No. 1) It felt a bit too "magic" for me, with no real gain from an internal or userland perspective. 2) I don't see a flood of people coming to the mailing list complaining about this feature, so I'm not compelled to want it in the language. As always, thanks for your efforts. On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 8:07 AM, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: > Hi! > > The vote for RFC https://wiki.php.net/rfc/default_ctor has been > concluded, with the result of 27 vs. 20. Since 2/3 majority is required > for acceptance, the RFC has been declined. > > I am a bit disappointed by the result, as I think it would be a good > change, but I am much more disappointed by the fact that that 20 people > voted against it and not even half of them - I would say maybe 1/5 of > them - chose to participate in discussion even minimally and explain > what is wrong with it in their opinion. I understand when everybody > agrees there's no need of the flood of +1s, vote is enough, but > disagreement by its nature is more diverse. I think not bothering to > discuss and then just voting "no" with no explanation is not how the > healthy RFC process should be working. > > -- > Stas Malyshev > smalyshev@gmail.com > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > --001a1132ebe2b4cf45050d77d2bc--