Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:81113 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 55372 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2015 08:07:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Jan 2015 08:07:50 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.176 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.176 mail-pd0-f176.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.176] ([209.85.192.176:57565] helo=mail-pd0-f176.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id DA/72-36889-454A4C45 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2015 03:07:49 -0500 Received: by mail-pd0-f176.google.com with SMTP id y10so6196115pdj.7 for ; Sun, 25 Jan 2015 00:07:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BvnKukxhssYJBysp3lyxTwAQCkE3iv4oqWqrfHKYF2Y=; b=F56xGcw1Fhzrcr6E71tQVSZSnzL8qM9Tfjq+FsDMQvPVE24QTD1uC0Jy4VvWZ2wOSH C/puPb0zMuGlMen9WEscmttBhGO3zu/F9A0XUKoq8fGegft0rm1HQvELClIZhwdd2NA9 3FG8K/zfLb27Auj6ypsB0nj5hhDb4z9c+AYKDWJgAP+RNAIwVNXbbohZan4e5REfWqBJ 6WRM8GC3HmJwt6SJYF547FrdhmXI2p3fh2xs6dzbptYyStyGQtgLOQJC/Y2zskf1yh9K bjbUCs4XS8qtBoNUWpxe7N7+QQykmRs1PWJd0B6NNAXJGIOULgchQHUNpxpiBM4LxaBC 8/0g== X-Received: by 10.68.90.4 with SMTP id bs4mr24765221pbb.151.1422173266056; Sun, 25 Jan 2015 00:07:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.145] (108-66-6-48.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net. [108.66.6.48]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ka5sm6597827pbc.27.2015.01.25.00.07.45 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 25 Jan 2015 00:07:45 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54C4A44F.2030902@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2015 00:07:43 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: [RFC] Vote results for default ctors RFC From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! The vote for RFC https://wiki.php.net/rfc/default_ctor has been concluded, with the result of 27 vs. 20. Since 2/3 majority is required for acceptance, the RFC has been declined. I am a bit disappointed by the result, as I think it would be a good change, but I am much more disappointed by the fact that that 20 people voted against it and not even half of them - I would say maybe 1/5 of them - chose to participate in discussion even minimally and explain what is wrong with it in their opinion. I understand when everybody agrees there's no need of the flood of +1s, vote is enough, but disagreement by its nature is more diverse. I think not bothering to discuss and then just voting "no" with no explanation is not how the healthy RFC process should be working. -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com