Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:81035 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 75235 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2015 08:57:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Jan 2015 08:57:52 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 217.147.176.214 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 217.147.176.214 mail4-2.serversure.net Linux 2.6 Received: from [217.147.176.214] ([217.147.176.214:41548] helo=mail4.serversure.net) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id FA/16-61273-E0D02C45 for ; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 03:57:51 -0500 Received: (qmail 16970 invoked by uid 89); 23 Jan 2015 08:57:47 -0000 Received: by simscan 1.3.1 ppid: 16964, pid: 16967, t: 0.0738s scanners: attach: 1.3.1 clamav: 0.96/m:52/d:10677 Received: from unknown (HELO ?10.0.0.8?) (lester@rainbowdigitalmedia.org.uk@86.189.147.37) by mail4.serversure.net with ESMTPA; 23 Jan 2015 08:57:47 -0000 Message-ID: <54C20D0B.4060104@lsces.co.uk> Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 08:57:47 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: <54C1261D.7080009@php.net> <21F16F7C-CEBE-4498-A539-E2E66EE147F7@php.net> In-Reply-To: <21F16F7C-CEBE-4498-A539-E2E66EE147F7@php.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Packaging in general - was Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] pecl_http From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) On 23/01/15 08:27, Michael Wallner wrote: > Well, I’m not the one to tell you that :) If I didn’t find it useful, I wouldn’t have built it. > Don’t hesitate, if there are questions about what they conceptually are trying to accomplish. > > I think a short discussion about where to put the dependant code and noting the outcome in the RFC could be the way to go. I guess just a few people who think that pecl_http is about to be included would suffice. I started using PHP one windows, and so have always viewed it as a smaller core and a series of modules. SUSE continues that model and I see no reason to change now, so in my book it is the the current bundling and enabling by default that has always been the wrong approach. I simply enable the elements I need and leave out all the other stuff which I don't. So the debate should be if other 'dependant code' exists. A large section of the ini file relates to modules which may well not be enabled so that gets deleted and moved to the relevant sub.ini . You are already talking about pushing php_interbase and other extensions into pecl, so they can be ignored but we got agreement a long time ago that no one database would be enabled by default, so all should be easily available. I would probably add that for a long time now I think most distributions have bundled mysql and mysqli in the one package, so the idea of removing mysql may not be so easy to achieve. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk