Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:80919 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 24089 invoked from network); 21 Jan 2015 03:19:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Jan 2015 03:19:52 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=morrison.levi@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=morrison.levi@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.218.46 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: morrison.levi@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.218.46 mail-oi0-f46.google.com Received: from [209.85.218.46] ([209.85.218.46:46782] helo=mail-oi0-f46.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C0/1E-49046-7DA1FB45 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2015 22:19:52 -0500 Received: by mail-oi0-f46.google.com with SMTP id a141so9818320oig.5 for ; Tue, 20 Jan 2015 19:19:49 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=ntav1peggDDBjAnl9OP100HILwMXArx6CFoL339JvK0=; b=wRpVQpyT+CICByd2eDb39yCBHuwKxGnEQ6y7pPuMjBh7HBjKn/tAK8JBND8s9CNyRL 5QwlYw7K4mgvkwqMdiNh7QTxmj2plX2sk3Mj5ymIXFLfjMNUtMS08/zKf9/z7/XpdyE4 +ssVRaz5jjnkE3lTiPA9h88wtQw3okkqzd3sBaqO6tB2mNu0ObmvXk8XHauQLxo0d5al kXs/UnwwYInnxDZCViiGR9pTvXA9YwgxHJPXUDxCVJKPCXDeR+wuSChmHiZDxy92bLTL qKrus02Ta084MDIyjvrRy//yH/abjPVkg6lng5Lhq0fFpo9heXQs98qwlyO6C2D4Mi3W crhw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.202.182.11 with SMTP id g11mr21906408oif.13.1421810389079; Tue, 20 Jan 2015 19:19:49 -0800 (PST) Sender: morrison.levi@gmail.com Received: by 10.76.103.101 with HTTP; Tue, 20 Jan 2015 19:19:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <54BEC837.5030302@gmail.com> References: <54BEC837.5030302@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 20 Jan 2015 20:19:49 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: hnBAyP6g9yZUtnRXQ_F4sDxJVKc Message-ID: To: Rowan Collins Cc: PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 8.0 is not 10 years away From: levim@php.net (Levi Morrison) > Occasionally, in various discussions, waiting for the next major release is > described as "maybe another 10 years", but I think that's a very pessimistic > prediction. It's more reasonable to expect it in half that time, around > 2020, and that is what we should base our decisions on. I am fairly certain you heard me say this in the thread for PHP 4 constructors. To be clear in that context I meant ten years, not PHP 8. This number is based on a blog post by Tony Marston (an active contributor to that thread), which I cannot link to because his blog is currently on the Spamhaus Block List. That aside, I sure hope that PHP 8 is not another ten years after PHP 7 :)