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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC][DISCUSSION] Removal of dead SAPIs and extensions
From: jahto@welho.com (Jouni Ahto)

Ok, in that case I'll take back some of my words. Would you please 
remove my name from the maintainers if it is still there? I don't expect 
to be able to contribute or fix anything anymore.

-- Jouni Ahto

On 01/20/2015 09:33 PM, marius adrian popa wrote:
> interbase extension is maintained and at least i will rename to firebird
> after php7 api conversion is over (a few blob/events tests don't pass after
> the big api changes )
>
> Dmitry Stogov <https://plus.google.com/u/0/114466583226539257267?prsrc=4> added
> some patches but we need to fix the zend engine api changes
>
> pdo_firebird is ok but doesn't cover the firebird api so we still need them
> both
>
> On Tue, Jan 20, 2015 at 9:18 PM, Jouni Ahto <jahto@welho.com> wrote:
>
>> At least one mail didn't bounce.
>>
>> The situation with Interbase extension, in my opinion: it's dead meat and
>> should most probably be just removed. Nobody is currently, to my knowledge,
>> maintaining it. Even the birth of said extension was a bit troublesome,
>> when I had just for the fun of it written some very rudimentary code,
>> committed it, and after that it turned out that Zeev was having a
>> commercial negotiation about writing PHP support for it. Because we didn't
>> want to step on each other toes, that left the the extension somewhat
>> unmaintained for a while even then, and then I slowly dropped out of PHP
>> development. Mostly because my new work in banking world had absolutely
>> nothing to do with it, not because I would have been tired of it. It was
>> extraordinarily fun and I somehow still miss those times. Kudos to everyone
>> still working on PHP (I still recognize a few names on the mailing list)
>> and to every newcomer.
>>
>> Now, this all happened when even PHP4 was still in development phase, a
>> very long time ago, so I'm quite surprised that extension survived even
>> into PHP5. Has anyone actually maintained it?
>>
>> PDO_FIREBIRD is probably a good replacement for it and it seems to be
>> mentioned on the list of maintained extensions. I don't know how well it
>> works with Interbase, which is now a proprietary product by Embarcadero
>> Technologies. Firebird is an open source fork originating from the same
>> codebase. It might even work, if the communication protocol with database
>> hasn't changed (much) or can switch to some backwards compatible mode when
>> encountering a version it does not recognize.
>>
>> And, last: funny coincidence that I received Anatol's email just now, when
>> I've just a week ago opened a github account and already have several pull
>> requests for 2 projects written in, surpricingly, PHP. Who knows, maybe
>> like the Terminator, "I'll be back".
>>
>> Thanks for reading the rants of a really old fart.
>>
>> -- Jouni Ahto
>>
>>
>> On 01/20/2015 11:22 AM, Anatol Belski wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Dmitry,
>>>
>>> On Tue, January 20, 2015 06:08, Dmitry Stogov wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Anatol,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Despite of this, we also have few extensions not converted to PHP7 yet -
>>>> https://wiki.php.net/phpng#unsupported_extensions_not_converted_yet
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 3 of them related to MSSQL, 2 to Oracle and one to Interbase. the last
>>>> one is partially converted (may be compiled), but it's so ugly, so it
>>>> won't work without serious redesign (I'm not sure how it worked in
>>>> php-5).
>>>>
>>>>   I'm going to rename and update the RFC to handle these cases as well.
>>> Will first forward this off list to the authors standing in the sources,
>>> so the bounces from the eventually non existent mails are not going back
>>> to the list (would spam everyone). But will then repeat the same to the
>>> list with valid mails.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Anatol
>>>
>>>
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