Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:80833 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 3826 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2015 16:24:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Jan 2015 16:24:18 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 80.177.120.119 marston-home.demon.co.uk Received: from [80.177.120.119] ([80.177.120.119:7715] helo=localhost.localdomain) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 72/6B-64889-1BF2DB45 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 11:24:17 -0500 Message-ID: <72.6B.64889.1BF2DB45@pb1.pair.com> To: internals@lists.php.net References: <0DD30A0D-E7CA-4150-83E0-8FD46635279C@ajf.me><8761c6280g.fsf@margaine.com><54B91D16.70901@gmail.com><78.22.47555.7C24AB45@pb1.pair.com><1421519637.40188.1.camel@proposaltech.com><54BABA93.9070809@gmail.com> <49.CA.64889.A5EDCB45@pb1.pair.com> <54BCE8F5.5080407@gmail.com> <97.D7.64889.15C1DB45@pb1.pair.com> <54BD240A.7050801@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <54BD240A.7050801@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 16:24:13 -0000 Lines: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 16.4.3528.331 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V16.4.3528.331 X-Posted-By: 80.177.120.119 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Remove PHP 4 Constructors From: TonyMarston@hotmail.com ("Tony Marston") "Rowan Collins" wrote in message news:54BD240A.7050801@gmail.com... > >Tony Marston wrote on 19/01/2015 15:01: >> The aim should be to eliminate customer grievances as much as possible >> and not to simply ignore them. > >I am not ignoring the grievances, and have repeatedly said that I am not >sure whether or not the change is justified in this case. > >You, however, are ignoring the benefits, and have repeatedly used phrasing >that implies that you do not think they exist, right underneath my messages >explaining what they are. There may be a small benefit to the core developers, but a huge negative benefit (i.e. "problem") to the rest of the PHP community. When you identify something that benefits both the core developers and their customers I might be more inclined to listen. -- Tony Marston