Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:80824 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 85431 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2015 15:01:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Jan 2015 15:01:38 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 80.177.120.119 marston-home.demon.co.uk Received: from [80.177.120.119] ([80.177.120.119:22759] helo=localhost.localdomain) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 97/D7-64889-15C1DB45 for ; Mon, 19 Jan 2015 10:01:37 -0500 Message-ID: <97.D7.64889.15C1DB45@pb1.pair.com> To: internals@lists.php.net References: <0DD30A0D-E7CA-4150-83E0-8FD46635279C@ajf.me><8761c6280g.fsf@margaine.com><54B91D16.70901@gmail.com><78.22.47555.7C24AB45@pb1.pair.com><1421519637.40188.1.camel@proposaltech.com><54BABA93.9070809@gmail.com> <49.CA.64889.A5EDCB45@pb1.pair.com> <54BCE8F5.5080407@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <54BCE8F5.5080407@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2015 15:01:33 -0000 Lines: 1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 16.4.3528.331 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V16.4.3528.331 X-Posted-By: 80.177.120.119 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Remove PHP 4 Constructors From: TonyMarston@hotmail.com ("Tony Marston") "Rowan Collins" wrote in message news:54BCE8F5.5080407@gmail.com... > >Tony Marston wrote on 19/01/2015 10:37: >> "Rowan Collins" wrote in message >> news:CALKiJKr3os6Ta55RjLq61o1+On-S3j8xFzMhJvqfxOzLZwT+vA@mail.gmail.com... >>> <> >> But the only benefits with the removal of old features is a smaller code >> base for the core developers. The only "benefit" which is experienced in >> userland is that applications which have run for over a decade suddenly >> stop working. >> > >Ah, so you admit there may be benefits? Again, I do not say that those >benefits are definitely enough to justify the change in this case, but they >are real, and I would like you to stop dismissing them. There is a big difference if a BC break which causes a minor benefit to the core developers also causes a major headache to the millions of developers who are the customers, the people who use the language to develop applications. The aim should be to eliminate customer grievances as much as possible and not to simply ignore them. -- Tony Marston