Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:80466 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 1479 invoked from network); 14 Jan 2015 15:20:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Jan 2015 15:20:17 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=olemarkus@olemarkus.org; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=olemarkus@olemarkus.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain olemarkus.org from 178.79.164.89 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: olemarkus@olemarkus.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 178.79.164.89 olemarkus.org Received: from [178.79.164.89] ([178.79.164.89:39584] helo=sophia.olemarkus.org) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id BD/C2-19120-03986B45 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2015 10:20:17 -0500 Received: from localhost (sophia.olemarkus.org [127.0.0.1]) by sophia.olemarkus.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 286BC36216; Wed, 14 Jan 2015 16:20:14 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at sophia.olemarkus.com Received: from sophia.olemarkus.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (sophia.olemarkaus.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6DbcQWq3TQe3; Wed, 14 Jan 2015 16:20:06 +0100 (CET) Received: from [10.12.141.42] (unknown [92.62.32.131]) by sophia.olemarkus.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8A6D136215; Wed, 14 Jan 2015 16:20:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <54B68924.1090904@olemarkus.org> Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2015 16:20:04 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Zeev Suraski , RQuadling@gmail.com CC: Andrea Faulds , Leigh , PHP Internals List References: <8DCD1B72-C81D-499E-B455-E4A042CD76E6@ajf.me> <4E2073DE-0951-498C-97BB-DDAC094F11FA@ajf.me> <9a033dd1f223f854e760924d118ab812@mail.gmail.com> <2ae0164cb9b9bf1c974d7a3c60af0466@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <2ae0164cb9b9bf1c974d7a3c60af0466@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Scalar Type Hints v0.2 From: olemarkus@olemarkus.org (Ole Markus With) On 01/14/2015 02:35 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > I don’t think we’re ever going to get consensus. But judging by the > feedback to the v0.1 version, I tend to disagree that the opposers would > have blocked it. There were certainly opposers – but not that many of them > as far as I could tell. I think it stood a good chance to pass at a 2/3. > Unlike strict typing – we didn’t even go to a vote on it, which I think is > unfortunate (and should be changed, before changing course completely as > this v0.2 suggests). > Hi guys, I completely agree. I would have gone through with voting on v0.1 first. Then later (maybe) propose v0.2 as an improvement. For me v0.1 is better than no hinting, and no hinting is better than v0.2. -- Ole Markus