Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:80211 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 90496 invoked from network); 5 Jan 2015 23:17:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Jan 2015 23:17:30 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ajf@ajf.me; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ajf@ajf.me; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain ajf.me designates 192.64.116.200 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ajf@ajf.me X-Host-Fingerprint: 192.64.116.200 imap1-2.ox.privateemail.com Received: from [192.64.116.200] ([192.64.116.200:57709] helo=imap1-2.ox.privateemail.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id AD/7D-21693-98B1BA45 for ; Mon, 05 Jan 2015 18:17:30 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB9AB00093; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 18:17:25 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at imap1.ox.privateemail.com Received: from mail.privateemail.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (imap1.ox.privateemail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id w8YeJJ8QXqz1; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 18:17:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from oa-res-26-240.wireless.abdn.ac.uk (oa-res-26-240.wireless.abdn.ac.uk [137.50.26.240]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id E7947B00094; Mon, 5 Jan 2015 18:17:24 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.1 \(1993\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 5 Jan 2015 23:17:22 +0000 Cc: Stanislav Malyshev , PHP Internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: <54AB0A10.4010709@gmail.com> <54AB0F3A.5020606@gmail.com> <06711056-CC82-41A6-BED9-FB87450C63BE@ajf.me> <54AB158A.9030000@gmail.com> To: marcio3w@gmail.com X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1993) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Parameter skipping, take 3 From: ajf@ajf.me (Andrea Faulds) Hi Marcio, > On 5 Jan 2015, at 23:14, Marcio Almada wrote: >=20 > Not sure how this RFC rant is helpful since it's based on completely = unreal > alternatives. This "We should get better APIs instead" suggestion, in > practice, means a ton of BC breaks that will never happen on PHP = global > functions for obvious reasons. I=E2=80=99m not saying change existing APIs. I=E2=80=99m saying add new, = parallel ones. We=E2=80=99ve done this before, we can do it again. It = doesn=E2=80=99t break BC. -- Andrea Faulds http://ajf.me/