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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 16:34:02 -0800
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To: Andrea Faulds <ajf@ajf.me>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Merge HashTable and zend_array into a single data structure.
From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye)

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On Jan 1, 2015 2:00 AM, "Andrea Faulds" <ajf@ajf.me> wrote:
>
> Hey Fran=C3=A7ois,
>
> > On 31 Dec 2014, at 17:50, Fran=C3=A7ois Laupretre <francois@tekwire.net=
>
wrote:
> >
> > "Showing 46 changed files with 193 additions and 204 deletions". I am
sorry but I can't analyze the impacts of your change, just from the patch.
Did you write an RFC that would explain the impact, especially for
extension writers ?
>
> Is that because of the patch=E2=80=99s size? 200+/- isn=E2=80=99t that bi=
g for a patch.

Well, size of a patch has no relation with the impact it could have.

> > More generally, what is the rule ? Is there a list of people who can
introduce changes in the code, and even BC breaks in the C API, without
writing RFCs, or is it just a question of rights/karma on the source
repository ? I say that because it is especially hard to have a proposed
change accepted on the mailing list, as several 'watchdogs' are there to
dismiss ideas coming from people they don't know.
>
> I don=E2=80=99t think there=E2=80=99s a hard and fast rule. We usually do=
n=E2=80=99t worry as
much about internal API and ABI breaks as we do about userland BC breaks,
and in this case this is for a major version, so significant internal
breakage is probably acceptable.

Php7 breaks everything anyway, so no big deal here.

However at least UPGRADING.INTERNALS should be done. A couple of things are
already missing and it is going to be hard to keep it synced.

Cheers,
Pierre

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