Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:80026 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 54584 invoked from network); 31 Dec 2014 19:00:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 31 Dec 2014 19:00:31 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ajf@ajf.me; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ajf@ajf.me; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain ajf.me designates 192.64.116.199 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ajf@ajf.me X-Host-Fingerprint: 192.64.116.199 imap11-2.ox.privateemail.com Received: from [192.64.116.199] ([192.64.116.199:49376] helo=imap11-2.ox.privateemail.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 85/67-32362-CC744A45 for ; Wed, 31 Dec 2014 14:00:29 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 513C98800DA; Wed, 31 Dec 2014 14:00:26 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at imap11.ox.privateemail.com Received: from mail.privateemail.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (imap11.ox.privateemail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id xIpcbniEyNvY; Wed, 31 Dec 2014 14:00:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.13] (unknown [94.13.96.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 286D08800A2; Wed, 31 Dec 2014 14:00:23 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.1 \(1993\)) In-Reply-To: <002a01d02522$469637f0$d3c2a7d0$@tekwire.net> Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2014 18:59:51 +0000 Cc: Dmitry Stogov , Nikita Popov , Xinchen Hui , PHP Internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <8B7FB652-77D4-499C-968E-3A3D48E98DA6@ajf.me> References: <002a01d02522$469637f0$d3c2a7d0$@tekwire.net> To: francois@tekwire.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1993) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Merge HashTable and zend_array into a single data structure. From: ajf@ajf.me (Andrea Faulds) Hey Fran=C3=A7ois, > On 31 Dec 2014, at 17:50, Fran=C3=A7ois Laupretre = wrote: >=20 > "Showing 46 changed files with 193 additions and 204 deletions". I am = sorry but I can't analyze the impacts of your change, just from the = patch. Did you write an RFC that would explain the impact, especially = for extension writers ? Is that because of the patch=E2=80=99s size? 200+/- isn=E2=80=99t that = big for a patch. > More generally, what is the rule ? Is there a list of people who can = introduce changes in the code, and even BC breaks in the C API, without = writing RFCs, or is it just a question of rights/karma on the source = repository ? I say that because it is especially hard to have a proposed = change accepted on the mailing list, as several 'watchdogs' are there to = dismiss ideas coming from people they don't know. I don=E2=80=99t think there=E2=80=99s a hard and fast rule. We usually = don=E2=80=99t worry as much about internal API and ABI breaks as we do = about userland BC breaks, and in this case this is for a major version, = so significant internal breakage is probably acceptable. Thanks. -- Andrea Faulds http://ajf.me/