Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:80021 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 90791 invoked from network); 30 Dec 2014 23:28:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 30 Dec 2014 23:28:47 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ajf@ajf.me; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ajf@ajf.me; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain ajf.me designates 192.64.116.216 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ajf@ajf.me X-Host-Fingerprint: 192.64.116.216 imap10-3.ox.privateemail.com Received: from [192.64.116.216] ([192.64.116.216:39287] helo=imap10-3.ox.privateemail.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 60/A0-20875-E2533A45 for ; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 18:28:47 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49C812400C7; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 18:28:44 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at imap10.ox.privateemail.com Received: from mail.privateemail.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (imap10.ox.privateemail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id kvjKcwt8JNRZ; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 18:28:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.0.13] (unknown [94.13.96.117]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 34BBE2400A9; Tue, 30 Dec 2014 18:28:42 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.1 \(1993\)) In-Reply-To: <7E99F018-E399-4EF0-B274-BA001674486B@zend.com> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2014 23:28:10 +0000 Cc: Stanislav Malyshev , Internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <4598E6EC-7C82-4E41-9789-E816039EF98D@ajf.me> References: <54A261A8.4000707@gmail.com> <7E99F018-E399-4EF0-B274-BA001674486B@zend.com> To: Andi Gutmans X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1993) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] PHP 5.7 From: ajf@ajf.me (Andrea Faulds) Hi Andi, > On 30 Dec 2014, at 21:43, Andi Gutmans wrote: >=20 > My take is that anything that takes away efforts from getting PHP 7 to = market faster is a distraction. > PHP.net needs to continue to show leadership in evolving the runtime. = We have a pretty great jewel in our hands. Some very good RFCs that are = going to make it in. Postponing PHP 7 (which this would as we have a = finite amount of resources on this list) would not be good for our = users. I too want to see PHP 7 as soon as possible, and I too want some great = RFCs to get in. (I=E2=80=99m really hoping I can get my bigint RFC in, = particularly, given I=E2=80=99ve put so much effort into it. Though = there=E2=80=99s a good chance it won=E2=80=99t get in due to time = constraints.) However, I don=E2=80=99t think 5.7 would consume much effort or be much = of a distraction. Bear in mind that the changeset from 5.6 would be = trivial at best, as it would contain zero new features. In fact, this is = mandated by the RFC, which specifically prohibits new features. The only = time it would really require any more effort is after 5.6=E2=80=99s bug = fix support ends, as 5.7 would have normal bug fixes for another year. So, while I understand your concern, I don=E2=80=99t think it would have = any effect on PHP 7=E2=80=99s release date. Thanks! -- Andrea Faulds http://ajf.me/