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Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 06:15:08 -0700
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Bugfest
From: levim@php.net (Levi Morrison)

>> For a while I have been just stalking the bugs database[1], and I
>> would love if we could some more focus on closing bugs. I'm not saying
>> the job we do (my self included) is not being done well enough, but
>> currently we have over 4.1k and a lot of those are old feature
>> requests, or bugs going as far back as to PHP4.
>
> We definitely need somebody triaging old bugs. The problem is it
> requires a real lot of time, and is mind-numbingly boring, so not many
> people do it. Many bugs are low quality - missing data, not having good
> descriptions, etc. - or
>
>> I do not have the technical experience on all subjects to close
>> reports or analyze them as well for our many extensions but would love
>> if we in the new year could have a similar event (maybe in user
>> groups?) to analyze, test and lower that number.
>
> Well, basic triage may be as simple as:
> 0) For all bugs that are older than 5.5
> 1) Look at the bug description. If the reproduction is not obvious from
> description, put it to "feedback" with request for better reproduction.
> If the submitter is no longer interested, it will be auto-closed as
> no-feedback with time.
> 2) Try to reproduce on 5.5/5.6. If it does not reproduce on either,
> close it with "not reproducible anymore, if you can reproduce on 5.6,
> please reopen".
> 3) If it reproduces on 5.6, put it in Verified status.
>
> This would not require anything but basic knowledge of PHP and lots of
> time. If somebody wants to do it, arguably millions of people would
> benefit from it - since it would make real bus more prominent, thus
> making PHP devs more likely to fix them, thus improving PHP which is
> used by millions :) - so it is a great way to contribute. Any takers?


...and what to do with feature requests?