Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:79991 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 71525 invoked from network); 29 Dec 2014 07:59:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 Dec 2014 07:59:45 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.176 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.176 mail-ob0-f176.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.176] ([209.85.214.176:55332] helo=mail-ob0-f176.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A3/80-01462-0F901A45 for ; Mon, 29 Dec 2014 02:59:44 -0500 Received: by mail-ob0-f176.google.com with SMTP id vb8so40401011obc.7 for ; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 23:59:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=E1RX5wtFYOw6DAClQZLwo09MgyxPJYGSBUjUW2FVznA=; b=NqsKEocCbTuARmFn1P6JWp32JYuSLAsIWoDU65IY2IfwjzqVAKoRUFRVkegmRrwV6q H2jIgyvUhZdCksomghKcU3nd0dorIwEsfF03KUP4oY37Dxn6caA1odu8EI7gHKtx/NJx Uxp+y8xQvGYYtORGEymx69D46y0t6diSo1s5qd/nZSgVq2cGqyLwAzflmWnUZ8ZvITnm n7HSwCi0UW9TlFXtJIgspMjNflbW86aPkym3G2DFnHjGatfH+DXSwyV7sR49i3QQuqKn kbZuYXWwXShmAaq12OSclcqfxhAZmcbKCY3pK5CcogNIOUI/a/2JdfQ48ABdQC1PZhaW ErDg== X-Received: by 10.182.24.8 with SMTP id q8mr32560138obf.26.1419839981883; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 23:59:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from Stas-Air.local (108-66-6-48.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net. [108.66.6.48]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id n66sm18259316oig.2.2014.12.28.23.59.41 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 28 Dec 2014 23:59:41 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <54A109EB.1000805@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 28 Dec 2014 23:59:39 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kalle Sommer Nielsen , Internals References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Bugfest From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > For a while I have been just stalking the bugs database[1], and I > would love if we could some more focus on closing bugs. I'm not saying > the job we do (my self included) is not being done well enough, but > currently we have over 4.1k and a lot of those are old feature > requests, or bugs going as far back as to PHP4. We definitely need somebody triaging old bugs. The problem is it requires a real lot of time, and is mind-numbingly boring, so not many people do it. Many bugs are low quality - missing data, not having good descriptions, etc. - or > I do not have the technical experience on all subjects to close > reports or analyze them as well for our many extensions but would love > if we in the new year could have a similar event (maybe in user > groups?) to analyze, test and lower that number. Well, basic triage may be as simple as: 0) For all bugs that are older than 5.5 1) Look at the bug description. If the reproduction is not obvious from description, put it to "feedback" with request for better reproduction. If the submitter is no longer interested, it will be auto-closed as no-feedback with time. 2) Try to reproduce on 5.5/5.6. If it does not reproduce on either, close it with "not reproducible anymore, if you can reproduce on 5.6, please reopen". 3) If it reproduces on 5.6, put it in Verified status. This would not require anything but basic knowledge of PHP and lots of time. If somebody wants to do it, arguably millions of people would benefit from it - since it would make real bus more prominent, thus making PHP devs more likely to fix them, thus improving PHP which is used by millions :) - so it is a great way to contribute. Any takers? -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com