Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:79945 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 41193 invoked from network); 25 Dec 2014 21:33:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Dec 2014 21:33:41 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mike.php.net@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mike.php.net@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.215.42 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mike.php.net@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.215.42 mail-la0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.215.42] ([209.85.215.42:45659] helo=mail-la0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id DC/71-31774-1B28C945 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 16:33:38 -0500 Received: by mail-la0-f42.google.com with SMTP id gd6so8338616lab.15 for ; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 13:33:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=TTjdb2Qj1+mnC4a4FZ7XBcKNOJoh+jWPyKPFSMoX99o=; b=w1yEEG0gHMljh++VOGqYs4OhrKF3LmafBL980l07Etu7Gu43SSilp/2bPxOGENFJVQ 2KkpZ7CKZOsFMxbirKNxy9P5ISyTLUTVt+AsSV80SVRi1t7q9WF6O1QRi5pu05YKeLNH KSKuvunX6kJNQdflsOny2pS8ax836Loc19X1TC9MqeBtWyp/QN7U3aWvSqofp2ppF2C4 ZrRdGacBE4/u82OCBb4QsytewcS0UbKMFQkn1sk9YK3jgbrLk2EQatMANeY7AEgmo39P n/ifztMy98+/SrQP6KPuFiCXkbAKDeF9w2hBVmB4ecVWfMN5LgPuMjlQvFVfY6l6mubm W+oQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.53.66 with SMTP id z2mr26338646lbo.65.1419543214418; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 13:33:34 -0800 (PST) Sender: mike.php.net@gmail.com Received: by 10.115.1.132 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 13:33:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.115.1.132 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Dec 2014 13:33:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <946C1B1D-30B8-4029-A5A1-73D515A017D8@ajf.me> <1419428487.29904.6.camel@kuechenschabe> <5E26F21C-EA41-43FF-8DDB-D0A985AB4197@ajf.me> <1419463624.28792.6.camel@kuechenschabe> <51160B8D-F662-458E-A0E0-1F37DC3A8869@ajf.me> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 22:33:34 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: DJW2D-La7ExvVAZHmxHqX3r-JHQ Message-ID: To: Laruence Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Johannes_Schl=C3=BCter?= , Levi Morrison , Pierre Joye , PHP internals , Andrea Faulds Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c3bb3209efc8050b11297f Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] About SUCCESS/FAILURE From: mike@php.net (Michael Wallner) --001a11c3bb3209efc8050b11297f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable There's already ZEND_RESULT_CODE, or did I miss anything? On 25 Dec 2014 06:45, "Xinchen Hui" wrote: > Hey: > > On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Pierre Joye > wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Andrea Faulds wrote: > >> > >>> On 24 Dec 2014, at 23:53, Levi Morrison wrote: > >>> > >>> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Johannes Schl=C3=BCter > >>> wrote: > >>>> On Wed, 2014-12-24 at 11:13 -0700, Levi Morrison wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I'm asking for specific things. The reason is that some API's do a > >>>>> non-zero error code; the fact that they are negative is a detail th= at > >>>>> we should not need to care about. > >>>> > >>>> My guess is that positive values more often might have a meaning ("5 > >>>> items changed", "address 0x1234") whereas negative values less often > >>>> have a meaning. Also passing -1 as parameter is more often invalid. > Thus > >>>> passing -1 is making debug output look more suspicious. > >>>> > >>>> (while there are cases where -1 is valid, see recent famous > pid > >>>> =3D fork(); /* ... */ kill(pid, SIGKILL); issue) > >>> > >>> I don't think this is the same use case as SUCCESS and FAILURE. Many > >>> functions have an out parameter which is only valid when the returned > >>> value is SUCCESS. This is not the same thing as an API which returns > >>> an integer and just happen to embed error state in the negative range= . > >>> Notably, it doesn't make sense to do `strpos() =3D=3D SUCCESS` to che= ck > >>> success; these are different cases. My question is specifically > >>> directed at the ones that use SUCCESS and FAILURE: which ones require > >>> FAILURE to be negative instead of the normal UNIX-ism of non-zero? > >>> > >>> For the record I am in favor of an enum such as `zend_status` or some > >>> other name which indicates whether an operation succeeded or not for > >>> the reasons already cited in this thread. I just don't see why FAILUR= E > >>> needs to be negative and want to know why this is the case. > >> > >> Hi Levi, > >> > >> Again, I think the reason FAILURE is -1 is for consistency with other > functions which use negative return values on error. Some functions retur= n > negative error codes, others just -1. Some functions return useful positi= ve > values, others just 0. But the idea is that all functions return a negati= ve > number on error, so you can use if (foo() < 0) to check for errors. That= =E2=80=99s > the point of making FAILURE be -1, AIUI. It makes it consistent with othe= r > things, like fork() or strpos(). > > > > doing if (foo() < 0 is exactly what should not be done, for any > > function returning a status. Only FAILURE and SUCCESS should be used. > > > > Which value FAILURE and SUCCESS have is not really relevant here but > > to actually be consistent. > > > > For example > > > > ZEND_API int zend_hash_del(HashTable *ht, zend_string *key) > > > > should actually be > > > > ZEND_API status zend_hash_del(HashTable *ht, zend_string *key) > > > > and its usage should be: > > > > if (zend_hash_del(ht, key) =3D=3D FAILURE) { > > ... > > } > > > > Same for zend_parse_parameters and the likes. > > > > However functions like zval_update_class_constant > > (http://lxr.php.net/xref/PHP_TRUNK/Zend/zend_API.c#1132 ) and all the > > underlying functions, are confusing. Both the signature and the return > > values should rely on FAILURE/SUCCESS. > > > > I think this is what Xinchen means too. Or at least this is what I > > mean with unify the APIs. > yes. and as a soft solution. > > we can change these functions which use success/failure return > zend_status instead of int first. > > thanks > > > > > Cheers, > > -- > > Pierre > > > > @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org > > > > -- > Xinchen Hui > @Laruence > http://www.laruence.com/ > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > --001a11c3bb3209efc8050b11297f--