Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:79932 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 81748 invoked from network); 25 Dec 2014 04:38:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Dec 2014 04:38:09 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.216.176 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.176 mail-qc0-f176.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.176] ([209.85.216.176:37072] helo=mail-qc0-f176.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 39/A1-07310-0B49B945 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 23:38:08 -0500 Received: by mail-qc0-f176.google.com with SMTP id i17so6446738qcy.21 for ; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 20:38:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DeTWmQqhRE0STDnk6VXLN9cmoO4vGhdZ2C48gR2WRNE=; b=ZyBK5LYtgYBtmFk6ldoVs9RRnJbDHuD4yleOcNgeq7KWIgrG7wKs5XHxjW4U+Y0nTG 2ssj4qU3ArN3y7OATCbYiW6B9RTRGmIbF7LjbgFOuGq7WuVyuvi2vTRAqvmami4LjLtD VUAZbCedXWyqiPSUxHCMaaNqLLTl59LIrZNNTpHLe8Qcz4wxNdDmCIkHfizEU5LLDXQW 0Dfi+hXqeJSc/b9e+t+EQM7BsMOKfAX0O1YMra2ZMMqEcJa/mt9qzGnqQGXx7Q1MCExt CTLeYnWJlBF0v/x2+AohERLh+1FiUTCv6C1XGQEeOGd99yId1aI3tDReiWjCBJsSmMx7 yfuQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.89.18 with SMTP id u18mr54930248qgd.20.1419482285752; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 20:38:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.22.106 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Dec 2014 20:38:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <51160B8D-F662-458E-A0E0-1F37DC3A8869@ajf.me> References: <946C1B1D-30B8-4029-A5A1-73D515A017D8@ajf.me> <1419428487.29904.6.camel@kuechenschabe> <5E26F21C-EA41-43FF-8DDB-D0A985AB4197@ajf.me> <1419463624.28792.6.camel@kuechenschabe> <51160B8D-F662-458E-A0E0-1F37DC3A8869@ajf.me> Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2014 15:38:05 +1100 Message-ID: To: Andrea Faulds Cc: Levi Morrison , =?UTF-8?Q?Johannes_Schl=C3=BCter?= , PHP internals , Laruence Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] About SUCCESS/FAILURE From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Andrea Faulds wrote: > >> On 24 Dec 2014, at 23:53, Levi Morrison wrote: >> >> On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 4:27 PM, Johannes Schl=C3=BCter >> wrote: >>> On Wed, 2014-12-24 at 11:13 -0700, Levi Morrison wrote: >>> >>>> I'm asking for specific things. The reason is that some API's do a >>>> non-zero error code; the fact that they are negative is a detail that >>>> we should not need to care about. >>> >>> My guess is that positive values more often might have a meaning ("5 >>> items changed", "address 0x1234") whereas negative values less often >>> have a meaning. Also passing -1 as parameter is more often invalid. Thu= s >>> passing -1 is making debug output look more suspicious. >>> >>> (while there are cases where -1 is valid, see recent famous pid >>> =3D fork(); /* ... */ kill(pid, SIGKILL); issue) >> >> I don't think this is the same use case as SUCCESS and FAILURE. Many >> functions have an out parameter which is only valid when the returned >> value is SUCCESS. This is not the same thing as an API which returns >> an integer and just happen to embed error state in the negative range. >> Notably, it doesn't make sense to do `strpos() =3D=3D SUCCESS` to check >> success; these are different cases. My question is specifically >> directed at the ones that use SUCCESS and FAILURE: which ones require >> FAILURE to be negative instead of the normal UNIX-ism of non-zero? >> >> For the record I am in favor of an enum such as `zend_status` or some >> other name which indicates whether an operation succeeded or not for >> the reasons already cited in this thread. I just don't see why FAILURE >> needs to be negative and want to know why this is the case. > > Hi Levi, > > Again, I think the reason FAILURE is -1 is for consistency with other fun= ctions which use negative return values on error. Some functions return neg= ative error codes, others just -1. Some functions return useful positive va= lues, others just 0. But the idea is that all functions return a negative n= umber on error, so you can use if (foo() < 0) to check for errors. That=E2= =80=99s the point of making FAILURE be -1, AIUI. It makes it consistent wit= h other things, like fork() or strpos(). doing if (foo() < 0 is exactly what should not be done, for any function returning a status. Only FAILURE and SUCCESS should be used. Which value FAILURE and SUCCESS have is not really relevant here but to actually be consistent. For example ZEND_API int zend_hash_del(HashTable *ht, zend_string *key) should actually be ZEND_API status zend_hash_del(HashTable *ht, zend_string *key) and its usage should be: if (zend_hash_del(ht, key) =3D=3D FAILURE) { ... } Same for zend_parse_parameters and the likes. However functions like zval_update_class_constant (http://lxr.php.net/xref/PHP_TRUNK/Zend/zend_API.c#1132 ) and all the underlying functions, are confusing. Both the signature and the return values should rely on FAILURE/SUCCESS. I think this is what Xinchen means too. Or at least this is what I mean with unify the APIs. Cheers, --=20 Pierre @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org