Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:79863 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 42321 invoked from network); 22 Dec 2014 05:25:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 22 Dec 2014 05:25:22 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=xinchen.h@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=laruence@php.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 209.85.217.177 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: xinchen.h@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.217.177 mail-lb0-f177.google.com Received: from [209.85.217.177] ([209.85.217.177:39067] helo=mail-lb0-f177.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F8/78-08160-E3BA7945 for ; Mon, 22 Dec 2014 00:25:19 -0500 Received: by mail-lb0-f177.google.com with SMTP id b6so3199807lbj.8 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 21:25:16 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=BegtNtZ44nXl9hwkdVbnBnkK3MdVsEnLqhk7OTQBC9s=; b=VzEU2ykpXaryaeCvMWnhr65Um5A0zgOS6gHpGkf0wJpKO41Ymc7cydsplTDopdb/Ea MYk1QP6E3Ltggr2mnv4ERPLtJ1jWyWsQOv+cU2eGR4KsjW91UW+0xdpEpMdV58+2FN2H 9hN+DeTpjMk6YW6OsHaVbNu6wmhavahD+pJuup16BoexQgowM4HQek1i/VRpIjjNdsYk nA4v5c/QU7bcHlxXKqM9uOjtX7gvgn2pcbD4AJkFDRxIaGSRfE84sPnLZYZSq207k1gW 7qrADzBneh30ZtahNjW5SLQzCG2nl9hk7JRMbyCTZET8FLedRZFQ8rAHcGlTWS37fG3E lFow== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkg10kue6BponKMuS+2ZUywcpg2rOYyZDT7vMhfkyUWVs7hzRcnGKqeBSV9K1WaFmVHEGInjgskeoQgVQ+5uCpZ+nN6qJ/QzkWfrk5OMaCKoX/Kp7wRZ/gP3Gxq80dgNiDKW8cJQhyABHCGisg3OW/nOjjk9w== X-Received: by 10.112.169.67 with SMTP id ac3mr20096883lbc.83.1419225916027; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 21:25:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lb0-f179.google.com (mail-lb0-f179.google.com. [209.85.217.179]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id or5sm4761463lbb.42.2014.12.21.21.25.14 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 21 Dec 2014 21:25:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail-lb0-f179.google.com with SMTP id z11so3276792lbi.24 for ; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 21:25:13 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.152.6.132 with SMTP id b4mr533795laa.59.1419225913589; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 21:25:13 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.114.64.176 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Dec 2014 21:24:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <000c01d01ca0$7e70c850$7b5258f0$@yahoo.fr> <43C635B0-65E4-48DE-B8FA-05AAB26138E3@ajf.me> <95AB1C2A-9A36-4771-AECD-685F2FD9A2DD@ajf.me> <3927CA53-3B1E-4622-97F1-048AD8459566@mjdugan.com> Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2014 13:24:53 +0800 Message-ID: To: Pierre Joye Cc: Mike Dugan , Andrea Faulds , Marco Pivetta , PHP internals , David Muir , Paul Dragoonis , "nf.laupretre@yahoo.fr" , Kevin Israel Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal for PHP 7 : case-sensitive symbols From: laruence@php.net (Xinchen Hui) On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 12:35 PM, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Mike Dugan wrote: >> Development should also be a consideration, I see a lot of developers us= ing Windows for local development (even on the irc channels). These are the= same ones who are, in my experience, less likely to be aware of solutions = like Vagrant just as much as the subtleties of case sensitivity across oper= ating systems. > > I think we coul be more realistic here. > > In my opinion the pains introduced by such a change does not match > with any possible gains. Many areas affect the request time badly > (IOs, mem, etc), I do not see case insensitivity as one, even if it > may look very bad if a simple small script is taken as example of the > slowdown (obviously worst case). > > I am not saying discussing that is bad, but it may not be the most > important thing to spend time on :) Agree.. I am afraid that will never happen(case-sesentive class/function name) in the whole php life thanks > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > --=20 Xinchen Hui @Laruence http://www.laruence.com/