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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 10:42:58 +1100
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To: Andrea Faulds <ajf@ajf.me>
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	Florian Margaine <florian@margaine.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] PHP 5.7
From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye)

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On Dec 17, 2014 4:19 AM, "Andrea Faulds" <ajf@ajf.me> wrote:
>
> Hey Florian,
>
> > On 16 Dec 2014, at 19:55, Florian Margaine <florian@margaine.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi list,
> >
> > I think having a minor PHP version for the only sake of adding
E_DEPRECATED
> > is kind of pointless to be honest. Historically, PHP (or other languages
> > for the matter, I'm thinking of python) minor versions have brought new
> > features. Adding notices is not a reason for a new version imho.
> >
> > If what we want are notices, and helping people to migrate to PHP 7,
then
> > we can create tools for this. For example, python made a tool to help
with
> > the transition of python 2 to python 3. Go did the same for 0.x to 1.0,
if
> > my memory serves right. The point of new versions is to include new
> > features or bug fixes for the language, static analysis can be done with
> > external tools.
> >
> > The fact that we'll have to maintain one more version is also not
something
> > to be taken lightly, especially when I see examples of how things
progress
> > in php-src. (I'm thinking about the recent contributor who gave up.)
> >
> > Now, if the reason people want PHP 5.7 is to extend PHP 5 lifetime, then
> > it's another matter, and the lifetime of existing versions could be
> > extended.
> >
> > Just my $0.02.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Florian Margaine
>
> Hmm, actually, a 2to3-esque tool and a formal extension of 5.6's support
by a year sounds like a better solution. If others agree, I might withdraw
this RFC.
>
> Thanks!

Please do not.

It can be updated but discarding a rfc every time you see a slight
opposition is not good.

Also an extension won't have the same impact and spread than a new php
release.

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