Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:79749 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 2279 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2014 22:08:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Dec 2014 22:08:36 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 74.125.82.53 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.53 mail-wg0-f53.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.53] ([74.125.82.53:64455] helo=mail-wg0-f53.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 4A/D4-08594-36DA0945 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 17:08:36 -0500 Received: by mail-wg0-f53.google.com with SMTP id l18so18567919wgh.40 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 14:08:32 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :thread-index:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=Y0HGSHPcY/bveaf/aWfm60a7HT3d2q0Yr7rxRlljY1o=; b=em287YWJauZ8NQN+WLo2Lxa51DnMjca5GIeQgK42srbAlJVXmtiuYfyL6eTaJUlWau zqvOseQC4dVw7TsP5D2/u/r0cZXK/nJBTu6p5A1xdA0mIxVFio6Xn8BXvOgfsT/5ta4S jog7bLUqPdd3qrpmiFCSS0yyS52wxRyo5BE5jN6M5ZO+6SlxSXhpPG4ey/0Y2jk7wqkK /XpVDQm8Lg3qwgjloxucs9TMcr2QWuNaYkGYpuiCph8X+prJ4Gp369MJLcOxra9EUqiD HFa5Yk3VdKOe2jxwYuLiFIdHsK9QAjIYaYR8kV5Bjm/6upyX06UKVEb4VQ10Bl/acbUc dhlQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQktfuPyEj6RoMTCYXBSVzYC1M5Ud20bjpHpnDirnkeo/VhMKKJUUCD0Laqg9cUOoGRS4JFPpjiJkHDMqOOtRFYpanbdr5XiufDgwJx/oxNajeHLIuJId49b5zbn/+r6n3PL3EHNoZOzKfB2pMQO0tu4FZI54w== X-Received: by 10.180.85.33 with SMTP id e1mr8240741wiz.61.1418767712346; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 14:08:32 -0800 (PST) References: <8C1EFD82-CFE0-4D01-9231-2A1658B182A6@ajf.me> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQHEAwp930Oucd9RrwDs9oQRz4U5JAKjqEmtAMffvUwBqetzRgLNlk2CAW8qVj4CM2w/iQOd6aJpAHRGm8ycLjLUQA== Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 00:08:32 +0200 Message-ID: To: Ferenc Kovacs , Florian Margaine Cc: Rowan Collins , PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] PHP 5.7 From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) > -----Original Message----- > From: Ferenc Kovacs [mailto:tyra3l@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 11:53 PM > To: Florian Margaine > Cc: Rowan Collins; PHP Internals > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] PHP 5.7 > > please be aware the not everybody agrees on the no new features rule, but > from as I can tell most people seem to agree that no new major features > should be included. That's true, but the only person I see actively campaigning for new features (major or otherwise) appears to be you, Ferenc :) It's *clearly* not in the scope of the RFC that Andrea put on the table - that's consistent with the feedbacks of several different people on the list. We'd need a different or heavily amended RFC in order to allow it. For the record, I'm mostly indifferent to the current RFC (somwhat opposing it as detailed in a previous email), but will clearly oppose any RFC that suggests any sort of feature 5.7 release. Most importantly, it will delay the strategic 7.0 release, but also - slow migration down (less reasons to move upwards to 7.0 if you have some of these features in 5.x). Zeev