Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:79729 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 49176 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2014 16:34:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Dec 2014 16:34:33 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=morrison.levi@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=morrison.levi@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.174 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: morrison.levi@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.174 mail-ob0-f174.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.174] ([209.85.214.174:46312] helo=mail-ob0-f174.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 52/96-12185-71F50945 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 11:34:32 -0500 Received: by mail-ob0-f174.google.com with SMTP id nt9so25992897obb.5 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 08:34:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Ehd1/x4+Y0RskMvPyJmpgmhi6UEMNke9lVzoTOppfPU=; b=gp4+c2o/thfVGz95iossVt8I1t6t7V80NvkHE5IW0AL0j94KzMPUoqSGXb5ZB6atlj 3BvCviBYAEOVHJ4VNBnNDdqcQPbY1aCV/li79LlGeGnU4wnTz+xnFZVngaDeB83vfPm6 g9uTE+AKrDNssQvBSEalcNsX+jy0tz2duvROVer6e5Cj2QcJEOVoA3lUyZ0p8b28QkRJ Et5ZLL046r/IeXLZV2lHORo0O1UgV27iWtl8gi5LzmL+jqLLzYwGAAp6urO65mhxniTK ETUouTSWeBpfcJy8zbJs9715bQRe5/ZvlDh8KvdX43ZZhR0qQ76wEkrj8fsspFQngVFw NNyQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.92.40 with SMTP id cj8mr22692042oeb.43.1418747669063; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 08:34:29 -0800 (PST) Sender: morrison.levi@gmail.com Received: by 10.76.89.237 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 08:34:28 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <8C1EFD82-CFE0-4D01-9231-2A1658B182A6@ajf.me> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 09:34:28 -0700 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 2nCYlww9K3Z5THnBh7_eHrb4Ccc Message-ID: To: Zeev Suraski Cc: Xinchen Hui , Andrea Faulds , PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] PHP 5.7 From: levim@php.net (Levi Morrison) >> >> There has been some debate about whether to make =E2=80=9CPHP 5.7". I= have >> made a very simple RFC. It proposes a final minor version of PHP 5, PHP >> 5.7, >> to be released at the same time as PHP 7, with no new features whatsoeve= r. >> >> >> > I am wondering why we need that? no new features.... >> > >> > I think we can extend 5.6 release cycle to avoid that.. >> >> Extending the PHP 5.6 release cycle doesn't give an opportunity to raise >> different E_STRICT and E_DEPRECATED messages in preparation for PHP 7.0. >> This may or may not be something you value, but it's something I >> personally >> value. > > I don't see why we'd need new E_STRICT's, but what stops us from adding > E_DEPRECATED to 5.6.x? Changing which errors and warnings are emitted in a patch release will likely fill up some unsuspecting user's HDD, and for people writing their own error handlers it may also mess them up. I'd much rather see the change happen in a minor version.