Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:79723 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 20882 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2014 14:09:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Dec 2014 14:09:57 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 209.85.212.173 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.212.173 mail-wi0-f173.google.com Received: from [209.85.212.173] ([209.85.212.173:57639] helo=mail-wi0-f173.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id EF/F0-12185-43D30945 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 09:09:57 -0500 Received: by mail-wi0-f173.google.com with SMTP id r20so12375337wiv.12 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 06:09:52 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :thread-index:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZeAmxwojGAuyNrzdeDuUjEo2MVzB4tmVaWxbeRBBe1k=; b=IwxJWjwziwoWkLx10rP+tlBNC8Oqbt3v+9KWqqHz43YdPNLdvWrDOOl63sh3PZiErL 19QYssQ3F5CxlFNIdpaKKE8E74n1S1gqGvL6WfTk361jEJGntcCp/SIfXB/hLQxvsLJ1 r/jOB0RAKVn+j8KlErX0Ke9sPRG1DthYcfq1cWD8/ptimpGryMGIwgGEU/+bglcPy607 ElPVVg5t+KE4g+5JA74fqMLCbXic6E4efNFVBJSfkrwYguPPt0+KSo4oi3+Ic6/9c1AU VPus/43dDdJoRi508oTHO516SlYl96xT0I1cEqLTTA9q3m5tBJc5/XNE6AMGq1u7PDga imNA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkRtZwgfYlGZ1cuUavo3jhYTx3aaT/4f8ccJSqcSKYqWnXHx+J9HXx7NjfYH8e6Xz/ZFoYgTrcB0atEcWYayMc9QABAn02vetzpS3e5MLIbxUm83U5G0s7PLfvu7X9Fjxlm3lLXvVcXQFxnuD6wYxuS8Pxtqg== X-Received: by 10.194.60.19 with SMTP id d19mr29558811wjr.48.1418738990987; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 06:09:50 -0800 (PST) References: <8C1EFD82-CFE0-4D01-9231-2A1658B182A6@ajf.me> <548FE4A8.4040909@beccati.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQHEAwp930Oucd9RrwDs9oQRz4U5JAKjqEmtAfMS7TMB3xMRRQHy5NuhnGcnQlA= Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 16:09:49 +0200 Message-ID: To: Andrea Faulds , Ferenc Kovacs Cc: Matteo Beccati , Xinchen Hui , PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] PHP 5.7 From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrea Faulds [mailto:ajf@ajf.me] > Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 10:00 AM > To: Ferenc Kovacs > Cc: Matteo Beccati; Xinchen Hui; PHP Internals > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] PHP 5.7 > > Hey, > > > On 16 Dec 2014, at 07:58, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > > > > We already has one accepted RFC which targets 5.7, and as I mentioned > before 5.7.0 wouldn't be featureless, but would contain the small self- > contained features which are currently targeting 5.6.x. > > So 5.7.0 would be a minor version without new major features, but also > > no > BC break, would allow us to make 5.6 more stable, and be a stepping stone > for 7.0 with the deprecated errors. > > That=E2=80=99s a benefit I hadn=E2=80=99t considered: people using distro= s are stuck on a > specific micro, so anything added to 5.6.x they=E2=80=99ll be able to get= with > 5.7.0, > right? I'm missing what benefit this gives us. Distros lock the version (all 3 digits) for a particular distro version; A= t the same time, when a new version of the distro comes out, there are no version restrictions of any kind. So for a given distro that uses 5.6.8 (as an example), upgrading to 5.6.9 o= r 5.7.0 or even 7.0.0 is equally forbidden within the same distro version, an= d equally allowed within a new distro version. Zeev