Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:79703 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 75943 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2014 09:17:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Dec 2014 09:17:57 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=smalyshev@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=smalyshev@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.169 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: smalyshev@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.169 mail-ob0-f169.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.169] ([209.85.214.169:54336] helo=mail-ob0-f169.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C5/70-07463-4C8FF845 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 04:17:56 -0500 Received: by mail-ob0-f169.google.com with SMTP id vb8so21979861obc.0 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 01:17:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZBEbvCE2I6p8gJ8YmqodxUsrKpDfKZnWio4QOdhnX5k=; b=x2EXye1pueZdR02sQsr3iwOeidKnNwI88eAA6U+IwhvCicWPahhZmutorFAx3+WfP9 NXdkgrqKG0FCM/ZYOCKtuNB1RYxzTPW1Aox1MDBGhrAs2AacLLo+Lw/v7VG2VhaL/h0q fVm6+iMp2VN88Z9q6oRt+W9xS2nrFFulVc4MgSWRm0oID8wxZ5Fmz6HeFv48TwAM3VCD 79DQMJTkhS5cdv32OGCn8bC1dZdrNdecSDZse/IB3rmaMBH2DghWXbvxFZ8g6m5PUnvw P8MpVgM+SvfDeVvzCmSXFSIk+nZGFgl8mkYsU/XW4QohKq2LA7mmFcjeMHyxxtT2swkN Jg4Q== X-Received: by 10.202.96.212 with SMTP id u203mr6833184oib.28.1418721473290; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 01:17:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.2.145] (108-66-6-48.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net. [108.66.6.48]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id eg8sm84162oeb.10.2014.12.16.01.17.49 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 16 Dec 2014 01:17:52 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <548FF8B4.4060608@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 01:17:40 -0800 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Craig , Leon Sorokin CC: PHP internals list , Robert Williams References: <548D494B.8010901@gmail.com> <548DC988.6030108@gmail.com> <548E84D1.9030401@gmail.com> <94025CC8-8A1A-4A28-BD7B-9E122CAD31FB@thesba.com> <548FB2E4.2030608@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Fix incorrect ternary '?' associativity for 7.0? From: smalyshev@gmail.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > Precisely why I suggested we do a poll and find out. Polling is a valid > means of getting a reasonable accounting of a particular metric. If you do it in a professional way, with properly randomized samples, controlled statistics, etc. Putting a form on the internet and counting people who may have by chance stumbled upon it or were directed to it by promoters of certain position doesn't do that. > If we use a sufficiently diverse and representative sample, we should easily be able > to get accurate enough results to settle this question once and for all. If. -- Stas Malyshev smalyshev@gmail.com