Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:79698 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 65470 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2014 08:28:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Dec 2014 08:28:23 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tyra3l@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tyra3l@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.48 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tyra3l@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.48 mail-wg0-f48.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.48] ([74.125.82.48:65242] helo=mail-wg0-f48.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 01/45-34244-52DEF845 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 03:28:21 -0500 Received: by mail-wg0-f48.google.com with SMTP id y19so16730303wgg.35 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 00:28:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=O7u+ScoHZbRM5B4uF1cuZLR0LptbE7R3AebNiDLlaSU=; b=GhyApAC5/ihrV+JJH0gj9B6AwLA8jtLe2B7B6wTjMwJvF3cH3XYEj4qvjtrSLFr2QE sgre/ptOrDkxnND7Uv7ny/ktKtWkGRREaWzV5qRaZzHZfKAW+yGuPMvk2FbX+gDOc6L4 ZARQ+R+veykTx0E5dcyhfiTw6oOGZLJ9R8XnWJ2CrjWkKLdoUwR5Ftwge+C8aLIQu7dw 8ZGt1OiFBE1IeKDYfSE4/PxuEuo3t9BK8JMFLj+unWpyMpgg+falXxbieOYPdRBkC0Hl +HHxYLb4DVGDsjM1ViEXFkPCY6UqcEohs6rzQbU1bQe0Nil5koGroRvyFDEajeIsyNx1 lVKw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.98.138 with SMTP id ei10mr2679043wib.32.1418718498505; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 00:28:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.88.33 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 00:28:18 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1418686347.23678.3.camel@kuechenschabe> References: <4385b3d86ee971aa0f008cc3fcc2e080@mail.gmail.com> <1418686347.23678.3.camel@kuechenschabe> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 09:28:18 +0100 Message-ID: To: =?UTF-8?Q?Johannes_Schl=C3=BCter?= Cc: Zeev Suraski , Adam Harvey , Derick Rethans , PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d044267fe23cc0e050a51248f Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] On the road to PHP 5.7 , or not ? From: tyra3l@gmail.com (Ferenc Kovacs) --f46d044267fe23cc0e050a51248f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 12:32 AM, Johannes Schl=C3=BCter wrote: > > On Mon, 2014-12-15 at 21:08 +0100, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > > there are two advantages for having 5.7 and having those deprecated > > messages in 5.7: > > 1, if we introduce the deprecated message in 5.6.x, some people will mi= ss > > it (for example debian jessie has 5.6.2) > > So you want Debian to upgrade to 5.7 instead of 7.0? - I'D rather see > them on 7.0 as soon as possible. > I don't think that they would pick up 7.0 instantly, even if there is no 5.7 but let's assume that you are right and having 5.7 will delay the 7.0 adoption by one year(as having 5.7 will prolong the support for the 5.x series by a year), I still think it would worth having a version to make the bed for 7.0. > > > 2, would allow us to stabilize 5.6 instead of keep adding stuff to it > > continuously . > > New features in 5.6 should be rejected and added to 7.0 to give users > more reasons to upgrade. > That's also an option, and now that we have a timeline for 7.0 it is a bit easier to convince people to wait for 7.0. Based on the numerous arguments that I had on the mailing list and on irc, it seems that I'm in the minority with my interpretation of https://wiki.php.net/rfc/releaseprocess: https://www.mail-archive.com/internals@lists.php.net/msg71665.html --=20 Ferenc Kov=C3=A1cs @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu --f46d044267fe23cc0e050a51248f--