Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:79695 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 58315 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2014 07:58:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Dec 2014 07:58:36 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tyra3l@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tyra3l@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.212.171 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tyra3l@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.212.171 mail-wi0-f171.google.com Received: from [209.85.212.171] ([209.85.212.171:48958] helo=mail-wi0-f171.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 19/E3-34244-926EF845 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 02:58:34 -0500 Received: by mail-wi0-f171.google.com with SMTP id bs8so11324432wib.10 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 23:58:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=mq5niL/iFivSjDeNHukQoBg5+wTZyHBgOdFN8j/yrcA=; b=i9eatO6pWjbO1nsThRVGf9h/ej4/Lk1mWbanLvnBUB3kYWnZD1Hwbai6CWC1itCI3Z sJWYfiK6x4Cs0Pl1ZVJY54BWpQQa5RKCuLiOxse3h2tCILF9CSYyUT3rEBqCfiOGc30/ sgt4P2gK0MyRK2wwdSNvkpqx6zNLZ91vOBWxMXP6+MXWASypsJ1Lv8lWF7WFf7ppAOX6 cpzrA+eYnpngVnqVaVZWDh52Lo8iOSaODwUcNXAPqFGjmaJ28eMypM+NFaIM5ffRNyWi 0kWkcHE6fXkwneOfTfxx3tqSMTQylCMbkdf0KRZx/wWE8SHtcnaZ/8Dwo1PmAjgptaNY qulg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.91.193 with SMTP id cg1mr2465653wib.26.1418716710716; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 23:58:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.180.88.33 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 23:58:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <548FE4A8.4040909@beccati.com> References: <8C1EFD82-CFE0-4D01-9231-2A1658B182A6@ajf.me> <548FE4A8.4040909@beccati.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 08:58:30 +0100 Message-ID: To: Matteo Beccati Cc: Xinchen Hui , Andrea Faulds , PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d041c408e944adb050a50b97e Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] PHP 5.7 From: tyra3l@gmail.com (Ferenc Kovacs) --f46d041c408e944adb050a50b97e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 8:52 AM, Matteo Beccati wrote: > > On 16/12/2014 05:07, Xinchen Hui wrote: > >> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 8:09 AM, Andrea Faulds wrote: >> >>> Good evening, >>> >>> There has been some debate about whether to make =E2=80=9CPHP 5.7". I h= ave made >>> a very simple RFC. It proposes a final minor version of PHP 5, PHP 5.7,= to >>> be released at the same time as PHP 7, with no new features whatsoever. >>> >>> I am wondering why we need that? no new features.... >> >> I think we can extend 5.6 release cycle to avoid that.. >> > > I tend to agree with Xinchen here. A new minor release just to introduce = a > few deprecation messages? It sounds like a lot of work (it also need to b= e > maintained) for little gain. > > I think that doesn't also match the plans of other (accepted?) RFCs that > were targeted for 5.7. I think I've seen it many times. > > > We already has one accepted RFC which targets 5.7, and as I mentioned before 5.7.0 wouldn't be featureless, but would contain the small self-contained features which are currently targeting 5.6.x. So 5.7.0 would be a minor version without new major features, but also no BC break, would allow us to make 5.6 more stable, and be a stepping stone for 7.0 with the deprecated errors. --=20 Ferenc Kov=C3=A1cs @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu --f46d041c408e944adb050a50b97e--