Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:79694 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 56801 invoked from network); 16 Dec 2014 07:55:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Dec 2014 07:55:23 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ajf@ajf.me; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ajf@ajf.me; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain ajf.me designates 192.64.116.216 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ajf@ajf.me X-Host-Fingerprint: 192.64.116.216 imap10-3.ox.privateemail.com Received: from [192.64.116.216] ([192.64.116.216:33220] helo=imap10-3.ox.privateemail.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 91/93-34244-965EF845 for ; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 02:55:23 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C6592400A9; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 02:55:19 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at imap10.ox.privateemail.com Received: from mail.privateemail.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (imap10.ox.privateemail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id uekk3bSw09dJ; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 02:55:18 -0500 (EST) Received: from oa-res-26-240.wireless.abdn.ac.uk (oa-res-26-240.wireless.abdn.ac.uk [137.50.26.240]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 289B82400C3; Tue, 16 Dec 2014 02:55:17 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.1 \(1993\)) In-Reply-To: <548FE4A8.4040909@beccati.com> Date: Tue, 16 Dec 2014 07:55:16 +0000 Cc: Xinchen Hui , PHP Internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <6879A58C-458B-459D-97D3-1A73663E1A0E@ajf.me> References: <8C1EFD82-CFE0-4D01-9231-2A1658B182A6@ajf.me> <548FE4A8.4040909@beccati.com> To: Matteo Beccati X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1993) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] PHP 5.7 From: ajf@ajf.me (Andrea Faulds) Hi Matteo, > On 16 Dec 2014, at 07:52, Matteo Beccati wrote: >=20 > On 16/12/2014 05:07, Xinchen Hui wrote: >> On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 8:09 AM, Andrea Faulds wrote: >>> Good evening, >>>=20 >>> There has been some debate about whether to make =E2=80=9CPHP 5.7". = I have made a very simple RFC. It proposes a final minor version of PHP = 5, PHP 5.7, to be released at the same time as PHP 7, with no new = features whatsoever. >>>=20 >> I am wondering why we need that? no new features.... >>=20 >> I think we can extend 5.6 release cycle to avoid that.. >=20 > I tend to agree with Xinchen here. A new minor release just to = introduce a few deprecation messages? It sounds like a lot of work (it = also need to be maintained) for little gain. There should be very little work necessary. Deprecations are easy, and = the changeset from 5.6 should be tiny at best. The only significant = extra work is the added year of maintenance for the PHP 5 line. > I think that doesn't also match the plans of other (accepted?) RFCs = that were targeted for 5.7. I think I've seen it many times. Could you tell me which RFCs targeted 5.7 and didn=E2=80=99t just add = deprecation notices? I=E2=80=99m unaware of any. Thanks. -- Andrea Faulds http://ajf.me/