Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:79678 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 4594 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2014 23:36:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Dec 2014 23:36:45 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ajf@ajf.me; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ajf@ajf.me; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain ajf.me designates 192.64.116.207 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ajf@ajf.me X-Host-Fingerprint: 192.64.116.207 imap2-2.ox.privateemail.com Received: from [192.64.116.207] ([192.64.116.207:55642] helo=imap2-2.ox.privateemail.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id E5/A2-18662-A807F845 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 18:36:44 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AEDD8C0083; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 18:36:39 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at imap2.ox.privateemail.com Received: from mail.privateemail.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (imap2.ox.privateemail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id NfRRN2WLIDQe; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 18:36:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from oa-res-26-240.wireless.abdn.ac.uk (oa-res-26-240.wireless.abdn.ac.uk [137.50.26.240]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C53578C0081; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 18:36:37 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.1 \(1993\)) In-Reply-To: <1418686347.23678.3.camel@kuechenschabe> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 23:36:35 +0000 Cc: Ferenc Kovacs , Zeev Suraski , Adam Harvey , Derick Rethans , PHP Internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <21C109EF-AE77-4107-B7E7-BCC5A1073A73@ajf.me> References: <4385b3d86ee971aa0f008cc3fcc2e080@mail.gmail.com> <1418686347.23678.3.camel@kuechenschabe> To: =?utf-8?Q?Johannes_Schl=C3=BCter?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1993) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] On the road to PHP 5.7 , or not ? From: ajf@ajf.me (Andrea Faulds) Hi, > On 15 Dec 2014, at 23:32, Johannes Schl=C3=BCter = wrote: >=20 > On Mon, 2014-12-15 at 21:08 +0100, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: >> there are two advantages for having 5.7 and having those deprecated >> messages in 5.7: >> 1, if we introduce the deprecated message in 5.6.x, some people will = miss >> it (for example debian jessie has 5.6.2) >=20 > So you want Debian to upgrade to 5.7 instead of 7.0? - I'D rather see > them on 7.0 as soon as possible. Honestly, I don=E2=80=99t think Debian will switch to PHP 7, nor will = any other distro, because it=E2=80=99s a new major version and it breaks = things. `php` will probably continue to be PHP 5, they=E2=80=99ll add = `php7`, prolong 5.6 or 5.7=E2=80=99s life for five years, and eventually = switch `php` over to 7. >> 2, would allow us to stabilize 5.6 instead of keep adding stuff to it >> continuously . >=20 > New features in 5.6 should be rejected and added to 7.0 to give users > more reasons to upgrade. I agree on this one. Thanks. -- Andrea Faulds http://ajf.me/