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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] On the road to PHP 5.7 , or not ?
From: johannes@schlueters.de (Johannes =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Schl=FCter?=)

On Mon, 2014-12-15 at 21:08 +0100, Ferenc Kovacs wrote:
> there are two advantages for having 5.7 and having those deprecated
> messages in 5.7:
> 1, if we introduce the deprecated message in 5.6.x, some people will miss
> it (for example debian jessie has 5.6.2)

So you want Debian to upgrade to 5.7 instead of 7.0? - I'D rather see
them on 7.0 as soon as possible.

> 2, would allow us to stabilize 5.6 instead of keep adding stuff to it
> continuously .

New features in 5.6 should be rejected and added to 7.0 to give users
more reasons to upgrade.

johannes