Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:79665 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 65734 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2014 18:12:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Dec 2014 18:12:03 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=adam@adamharvey.name; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=adam@adamharvey.name; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain adamharvey.name designates 209.85.223.169 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: adam@adamharvey.name X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.223.169 mail-ie0-f169.google.com Received: from [209.85.223.169] ([209.85.223.169:33220] helo=mail-ie0-f169.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 31/77-16076-3742F845 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 13:12:03 -0500 Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id y20so11318008ier.14 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 10:12:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=adamharvey.name; s=google; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=fqRQndu1Y1JgrlrCV9GWqYGOCB2YPjwn6Vb0ydBePOk=; b=cKBYRBtPgdGqjamB0LzqFuH5RV+bFYj/2CoZaYI9pBoBg6jCfr3ccYooirhFg2SpPa F99YmBZCqemDW6om31xooeflR8AswqXYI+bwIRx6s72GwVq3UgquMWl2UlXY80s54Gc+ FFOZviJqCa13xJxMZ0W+uBnJl110AG/h+7GVs= X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=fqRQndu1Y1JgrlrCV9GWqYGOCB2YPjwn6Vb0ydBePOk=; b=b+J6ZQTS+eGGYIKv9Zev3Ur+EG6XBopUsrzoZl1QdEkdHtv7rpmcgOIpV+hQVwQtO8 RBbsnaW6qS5dw0S0MrmBILtsk0UHeETLbiai+avhi+pln6StprZgasB4XdPFu1o1Iqom rp2UdMRtNSijuvsmSeY9Y20Sy9KiV505HMSNNsHUhIMJ3f9NSfYYmIuoZE6D9mLCRwuR ogAGISXEQ4d2OWdIVgXiql4aOLE5tlvTQPCok16WKs2Jn6CgH7q8K6Vnlz6zKT5F48/7 9oVqdTxYkznuAybuf6pM3UIIeJuikv/ieL+9h+scVc9thCrYmUaUqKyjMoFZ3J3Nu9/5 Y2Lw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkQTmSQ8HNrHXI1ZT+dxD0fCkeFolUJbZyaR/odepYX9hY+F659m4Vr+ElPJmlz4jk1PFKb X-Received: by 10.42.230.74 with SMTP id jl10mr28901913icb.77.1418667120450; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 10:12:00 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: adam@adamharvey.name Received: by 10.42.86.129 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 10:11:40 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 10:11:40 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: OzXcC82PEsCfhq1_X50pCww-eQ8 Message-ID: To: Derick Rethans Cc: PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] On the road to PHP 5.7 , or not ? From: aharvey@php.net (Adam Harvey) On 15 December 2014 at 08:51, Derick Rethans wrote: > Yes, I disagree. It's a time thing. Let's all work on one thing instead > of *two*. Clearly you must see that there is not enough bandwidth? It > will also prevent people from "oh we can get this into 5.7" nonsense. > It's not helpful, and it *is* fragmenting development. I'm just as cognisant of our time constraints as you are, but I still think this can work if there's a clear, written expectation (say via RFC) that 5.7 is for migration related changes only, and should not include new feature work. If we can keep this as "5.6 + some deprecation warnings", I believe that can reduce the QA/development load enough to make delivering it and 7.0 possible next year. Adam, who apparently put his optimistic pants on this morning.