Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:79660 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 51749 invoked from network); 15 Dec 2014 17:56:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Dec 2014 17:56:19 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rowan.collins@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rowan.collins@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.54 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rowan.collins@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.54 mail-wg0-f54.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.54] ([74.125.82.54:47621] helo=mail-wg0-f54.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 44/34-16076-2C02F845 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 12:56:19 -0500 Received: by mail-wg0-f54.google.com with SMTP id l2so15385841wgh.27 for ; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 09:56:16 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2lrNoG8C5M4CsBOeKoNIyZ57XvpGt50+j6g9zhd0o5U=; b=GbfWV4UsUiP7Yw3V3Os+juh4KEW59YGTL7dMTC0pL6k5BQOg8WJbGyudXlf9PrvKYo e0tHOr21R3Uwy2pVvrp+a8A+3y9A38vPIcZuSNPfnJ3xlOB+XL59V96bcoOs2D3coicG QN1WRV7BYzjmnCWI72ZanpEklczSX2y0iB8f6WvpTnp/W+CgXFlRMceWKgBJZt7dPCjM fqQXpvNbq5bexICwpMjoyRb9jJcHRtZnhmseVYozibOksNupUZXZz1Ynx3GkYY8LEIYR qeS2koxd50mod6Y19RSMQ5i9oUbIWeRFB5sU8d6EcxXBcbdAkp+3Dg0u1+6uXb5ZQLro 9XBg== X-Received: by 10.180.103.162 with SMTP id fx2mr23016499wib.42.1418666175124; Mon, 15 Dec 2014 09:56:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.148] ([62.189.198.114]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id t4sm8279837wjy.21.2014.12.15.09.56.13 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 15 Dec 2014 09:56:14 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <548F20A5.20506@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2014 17:55:49 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] On the road to PHP 5.7 , or not ? From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) Pierre Joye wrote on 15/12/2014 17:39: >>> I hate to say that but if we stick to rules, this rfc and its result are >>> > >totally invalid and should be canceled. >> > >> >What a bonkers statement. Just because you don't agree it's not >> >"totally invalid". I think 34 vs 2 is a pretty solid argument for >> >sticking to it. > Aller php7 related RFCs from there are invalid if we stick to the rules. > The author asked to respect rules while systematically breaking them. And > that's my point here. Can you succinctly, without any personal attacks, explain which rules this RFC broke? Thanks, -- Rowan Collins [IMSoP]