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Date: Sun, 14 Dec 2014 19:48:46 +0000
To: PHP internals <internals@lists.php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Fix incorrect ternary '?' associativity for 7.0?
From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins)

On 14 December 2014 17:31:52 GMT, Leon Sorokin <leeoniya@gmail.com> wrote:
>This sounds like a reasonable compromise to me and infinitely better 
>than doing nothing. However, if 7.0 complains loudly enough about this 
>already quasi-deprecated pattern, then the incubation period for an 
>eventual fix need not be that of a decade-out major version, but of a 
>7.x point release. Oddly, 5.4 is a good example of a much larger 
>incompatibility changelog than the provisional one for 7.0: 
>http://php.net/manual/en/migration54.incompatible.php

5.4 is a good example of what we *don't* want to do with minor versions. It consisted of a messy list of "those bits of the abandoned 6 which didn't quite make it into 5.3".

If we want major features more often, we can have major releases more often. This figure of 10 years gets mentioned a lot, but with annual releases, it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect 8.0 by 2020 (a year after 7.4).