Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:79620 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 29903 invoked from network); 13 Dec 2014 08:18:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Dec 2014 08:18:02 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.51 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.51 mail-qg0-f51.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.51] ([209.85.192.51:53880] helo=mail-qg0-f51.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 55/90-24726-936FB845 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2014 03:18:02 -0500 Received: by mail-qg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id e89so6589874qgf.10 for ; Sat, 13 Dec 2014 00:17:59 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=rjPRRPP2Me9T3rW4pDLVIjLFSYqVwOFY7p4mG+z9s0E=; b=tuU0a6KgpHNEfPKpWMVM0e7enJzs7x0zZvtHV5nCfTZvTE5eK7hADIZp74AuP4IDnH BkYy1MWdijZFJurveS5G3R7Vryc4iAXnK/TT/qsR+Bh7xceIMuUgpsoZE8OnCUJ51tSU 8EqoTgCSFk4wdd4Gzvq7A/LdVnu7Bgmv/DXVIv6fRUiJ6q99GAP2COCkJNWXrupLzR+h auQciU0P9cTjMxr2SnuBmdfjljY1sSULqPiFwGjtRTPFZWLerpk3Ja94vj0VDKQpT17C ZffEUiCM9kUTDECfzqI45Z+JYEZRzC3u2ZnBkaWbaPoRiTwkwg38KGrlD99z0BEjD4Id 8QvQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.79.212 with SMTP id q20mr39053274qak.4.1418458679162; Sat, 13 Dec 2014 00:17:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.104.171 with HTTP; Sat, 13 Dec 2014 00:17:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.140.104.171 with HTTP; Sat, 13 Dec 2014 00:17:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <30315309863fc1883f187e2f6777d081@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2014 19:17:58 +1100 Message-ID: To: Zeev Suraski Cc: PHP internals , Julien Pauli , Levi Morrison Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bf1617eb33b50050a14a520 Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] On the road to PHP 5.7 , or not ? From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) --047d7bf1617eb33b50050a14a520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Dec 13, 2014 2:19 PM, "Zeev Suraski" wrote: > Levi, Andrea, Adam, and others that suggested we can do 5.7 in parallel > while sticking to the 7.0 timeline: > > 1. I was replying to Julien. Julien said in at least 3 different places in > his email that if we do 5.7, we'll clearly not be doing 7.0 in 2015 and it > will clearly mean delaying 7.0 by a year. If you disagree, you should be > replying to and discussing with him, not me. This is a public mailing list, for open discussions. You replied to arguments, so we do. It brings pros and cons to a debate you delibatery killed with your incomplete rfc, breaking rules again while being at it. > Perhaps Julien and you have > different ideas about what 5.7 is; Even though it's not explicitly > mentioned in his email, it certainly sounds that in his mind, 5.7 is just as > much of a release as 5.6 or 5.5 were. Not necessarily and this is what we are discussing here. > 3. Last (and probably least) - a 5.7 that breaks compatibility is > inconsistent with our version strategy, that suggests 5.7 should be fully > compatible with 5.6. It won't if we do it right. --047d7bf1617eb33b50050a14a520--