Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:79616 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 5224 invoked from network); 12 Dec 2014 23:00:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Dec 2014 23:00:54 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ajf@ajf.me; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ajf@ajf.me; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain ajf.me designates 192.64.116.216 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ajf@ajf.me X-Host-Fingerprint: 192.64.116.216 imap10-3.ox.privateemail.com Received: from [192.64.116.216] ([192.64.116.216:44670] helo=imap10-3.ox.privateemail.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id FA/00-04052-5A37B845 for ; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 18:00:53 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED6292400C2; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 18:00:49 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at imap10.ox.privateemail.com Received: from mail.privateemail.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (imap10.ox.privateemail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id UaU8eD8AiAzm; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 18:00:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from oa-res-26-240.wireless.abdn.ac.uk (oa-res-26-240.wireless.abdn.ac.uk [137.50.26.240]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D946E2400D0; Fri, 12 Dec 2014 18:00:48 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.1 \(1993\)) In-Reply-To: <30315309863fc1883f187e2f6777d081@mail.gmail.com> Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2014 23:00:46 +0000 Cc: Julien Pauli , PHP Internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: <30315309863fc1883f187e2f6777d081@mail.gmail.com> To: Zeev Suraski X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1993) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] On the road to PHP 5.7 , or not ? From: ajf@ajf.me (Andrea Faulds) Hi! > On 12 Dec 2014, at 19:40, Zeev Suraski wrote: >=20 >> If not : we'll happen having 3 active versions (5.6 , 5.7 and 7.0) = and one >> sec- >> fix only (5.5) , *this is something we don't want* , because we have = the >> feeling that it is too much pain to maintain so many versions alive. >=20 > It's worse than that. Since the PHP 7 timeline was already approved = and > must be a working assumption, introducing a 1yr delay for 5.7 is out = of the > question. That means that working on PHP 5.7 would require us to work = on > two upcoming content releases (with new features and substantial = changes) > simultaneously, which IIRC is both unprecedented and a bad idea given = our > limited resources. In my opinion, we should definitely focus all of = our > resources and bandwidth on getting 7.0 out the door. 7.0 is = strategic. 5.7 > is tactical. I must disagree: 5.7 would only be trivially different from 5.6 = (deprecations), the effort involved is only as much as continuing to = maintain 5.6, and we have to do that anyway. So there=E2=80=99s no = problem with working on both. Thanks! -- Andrea Faulds http://ajf.me/=