Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:79208 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 44002 invoked from network); 27 Nov 2014 00:36:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Nov 2014 00:36:32 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ameaijou@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=gwynne@darkrainfall.org; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.176 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ameaijou@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.176 mail-ob0-f176.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.176] ([209.85.214.176:39878] helo=mail-ob0-f176.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 93/70-40216-F0276745 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 19:36:32 -0500 Received: by mail-ob0-f176.google.com with SMTP id vb8so3025575obc.21 for ; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 16:36:29 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=h22rK6I8zOxWVKUB83i/DcqLLLj/7n396PJWu+VpWJA=; b=CpIJVL43c0E8W7nS7ZgnNJGgwLsQ55D/jWAwCakPrTpJ5iVFA4Ay1O/OEMkWMsq7lG oXr3ZCW+0pu0b5L/G091GYi2DG/T51TWWIbk6NOQMkLddu09tO2ymDMPpHBOINuEVyd4 AoS93F0TjERS7+vNkNMQAEaV9VBkYSpBUCm4isH2rwCDA+T0Tjy9+ItrMHg/0PXXzW+i ANWGJ7n27G3ZsejUV9imxvKmR9FdH5jP5zNGuconA+ZSbEtalwld9gh3S5HXzxIj0pVa TREgGDh0j8IGJrBmL6uoLoa/gpEGVX9h02NaCNTzzv6mIo4DNOuAvtrA+v6CNWR5bCJl 5f3Q== X-Received: by 10.60.112.72 with SMTP id io8mr12465842oeb.67.1417048589380; Wed, 26 Nov 2014 16:36:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.3.3] (cpe-72-179-28-18.austin.res.rr.com. [72.179.28.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id e1sm2512902obn.11.2014.11.26.16.36.28 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 26 Nov 2014 16:36:28 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) In-Reply-To: <83ECD95B-D992-484F-8A20-DB229D9DBCB2@ajf.me> Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 18:36:27 -0600 Cc: Rowan Collins , PHP Internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <67348FE0-AFE7-4426-A537-A03AEF4738AB@darkrainfall.org> References: <7976C8E7-CA1A-4816-84A1-33942880D0A5@ajf.me> <4F86A182-679D-4E52-B7BA-F53ACDDB962C@gmail.com> <83ECD95B-D992-484F-8A20-DB229D9DBCB2@ajf.me> To: Andrea Faulds X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Safe Casting Functions From: gwynne@darkrainfall.org (Gwynne Raskind) On Nov 26, 2014, at 17:24, Andrea Faulds wrote: >> On 26 Nov 2014, at 23:00, Rowan Collins = wrote: >>> So far only 15 people have voted, that=92s very low for this kind of = RFC. >>>=20 >>> I=92m tempted to extend voting for another week. It=92s not likely = to >>> change the outcome, but it would hopefully mean more people vote. >> I don't know if it would make a difference here, but I wonder if it = would be sensible to add an "abstain" option in votes? That way, someone = who has considered an RFC but not formed a strong opinion either way = could register that fact. This could even be paired with the notion of a = "quorum", i.e. a minimum vote count demonstrating that the outcome of = the vote is not the accidental result of "missing" votes, say because = several people happened to be on holiday or busy. > That sounds like a very good idea to me, I, for one, would be happy if = this was implemented. A very strong +1 here. It would also give a stronger sense of how many = people are actually looking at voting on RFCs in general. I would = certainly have felt better casting abstain on several RFCs that=92ve = recently gone by than with the vote I actually cast (though I stand by = my votes in all cases regardless), usually because of lack of strong = knowledge of the subject matter. -- Gwynne Raskind