Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:79140 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 10681 invoked from network); 24 Nov 2014 23:19:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 24 Nov 2014 23:19:16 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=php@golemon.com; sender-id=softfail Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=php@golemon.com; spf=softfail; sender-id=softfail Received-SPF: softfail (pb1.pair.com: domain golemon.com does not designate 209.85.192.182 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: php@golemon.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.182 mail-pd0-f182.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.182] ([209.85.192.182:52861] helo=mail-pd0-f182.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F7/F3-21335-3FCB3745 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 18:19:15 -0500 Received: by mail-pd0-f182.google.com with SMTP id r10so10717637pdi.13 for ; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 15:19:12 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=FwdorCuTIwhlWuAd4I1SBDKgI57ED+z+w3lrxonBT2Q=; b=iMG3C7a49yvlNKdmykQTdYL+DNzt6qBSiLaOtQrh2ki1PPr7dJVp3byrDS3eP3M4V5 AsaW8c9BGZuvAakKlC7XzBCfxz4gf4eVldpDCE6oth5Sr+UvkhpPxi30TAU7ulSOB7Bc O83pDlqHCEGQgyJOj+3C4RjvVVsrNQnBx6p90oZaRg/6V+b1FZx7SnxMZKM8rOFPNzEx Ri7x00wiWd8LeuIeDJ1GOmmUsMwddM1WgnGQ2GLnYiKdxnl1EhyQv5bldK/sFIwukgHr IesoQSzDctquGBQQouQHzTZQ+zEcEhmtHbkg0Knx6YJXOBjjpTWHdLTJG8EQyGo9S5QS brtQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkFv3vVYgftHIa2Idx/joLBGL1TjY9WdMKR6Y5HD5YtaTQO8zcfciTqleb7hNyc4dZAd/Ug MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.70.90.80 with SMTP id bu16mr38453394pdb.44.1416871152438; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 15:19:12 -0800 (PST) Sender: php@golemon.com Received: by 10.70.127.139 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Nov 2014 15:19:12 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [2620:10d:c082:1003:22c9:d0ff:fe87:295b] In-Reply-To: References: <13B08117-4BE5-4E0D-A3FF-B6A4D1F9584C@ajf.me> Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 15:19:12 -0800 X-Google-Sender-Auth: Al_OdL1t7TIFM5s3UDzS8OMujqU Message-ID: To: Adam Harvey Cc: Andrea Faulds , PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Unicode Escape Syntax From: pollita@php.net (Sara Golemon) > We would have to require ICU, but that might be worthwhile for PHP 7 > anyway. Having at least one i18n API that's guaranteed to be available > would be nice. > It's 2014. I think requiring ICU is reasonable at this point. Orthogonal to this RFC, but I'd be in favor of deprecating all the non-ICU intl stuff sometime soon. > I probably worded that badly =E2=80=94 I just mean that I don't think \u = and > \U should be limited to only u"" strings, but should work in normal > strings as well. (In other words, I'm agreeing with what's in your > RFC, not with Sara.) > I don't feel strongly about the u"" requirement, it doesn't make the world a darker place if we're more permissive. > Plus, it=E2=80=99s worth noting that \u would still be different from \oo= o and \xXX anyway, > as it=E2=80=99d be fixed-length while octal and hex aren=E2=80=99t. > And I really wish that weren't true. :p -Sara