Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:78772 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 50969 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2014 02:27:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Nov 2014 02:27:14 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ajf@ajf.me; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ajf@ajf.me; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain ajf.me designates 192.64.116.200 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ajf@ajf.me X-Host-Fingerprint: 192.64.116.200 imap1-2.ox.privateemail.com Received: from [192.64.116.200] ([192.64.116.200:36936] helo=imap1-2.ox.privateemail.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 04/44-28384-28CDA545 for ; Wed, 05 Nov 2014 21:27:14 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B82BB00092; Wed, 5 Nov 2014 21:27:11 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at imap1.ox.privateemail.com Received: from mail.privateemail.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (imap1.ox.privateemail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 6JvZVlpz5XTf; Wed, 5 Nov 2014 21:27:10 -0500 (EST) Received: from oa-res-26-28.wireless.abdn.ac.uk (oa-res-26-28.wireless.abdn.ac.uk [137.50.26.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id C4BC1B0008A; Wed, 5 Nov 2014 21:27:09 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.0 \(1990.1\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 02:27:07 +0000 Cc: PHP internals , Florian Margaine , Ferenc Kovacs Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <04723EAD-4C8E-41C2-BE81-4989882A0C69@ajf.me> References: <3E2593DC-5755-48A6-8802-6F2FB3625778@ajf.me> To: Pierre Joye X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1990.1) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Thresholds of backwards compatibility breaks From: ajf@ajf.me (Andrea Faulds) > On 6 Nov 2014, at 02:00, Pierre Joye wrote: >=20 > We have minor BC breaks (new errors. Slight behavior changes due to = bug fixes). >=20 > But globally no, it makes end users work harder for migration, even = worst for distros. >=20 > See Debian f.e., they boost the adoption speed now, we finally see = some results, within the 2-4 years plan we had back then. I could not = imagine a worst time to rollback what we defined. >=20 Ah, you raise a good point there. It=E2=80=99d be a shame if distros = stopped shipping new minor versions of PHP. Alright then. Perhaps, instead, the solution is more frequent majors, = with less BC breaks each. -- Andrea Faulds http://ajf.me/