Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:78767 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 42660 invoked from network); 6 Nov 2014 01:46:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Nov 2014 01:46:52 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ajf@ajf.me; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ajf@ajf.me; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain ajf.me designates 192.64.116.200 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ajf@ajf.me X-Host-Fingerprint: 192.64.116.200 imap1-2.ox.privateemail.com Received: from [192.64.116.200] ([192.64.116.200:41542] helo=imap1-2.ox.privateemail.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id CE/82-28384-C03DA545 for ; Wed, 05 Nov 2014 20:46:52 -0500 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D738DB000A0; Wed, 5 Nov 2014 20:46:48 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at imap1.ox.privateemail.com Received: from mail.privateemail.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (imap1.ox.privateemail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id eEeKJ4XyJahN; Wed, 5 Nov 2014 20:46:48 -0500 (EST) Received: from oa-res-26-28.wireless.abdn.ac.uk (oa-res-26-28.wireless.abdn.ac.uk [137.50.26.28]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 96513B0009C; Wed, 5 Nov 2014 20:46:47 -0500 (EST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.0 \(1990.1\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 01:46:45 +0000 Cc: Florian Margaine , PHP Internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <3E2593DC-5755-48A6-8802-6F2FB3625778@ajf.me> References: To: Ferenc Kovacs X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1990.1) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Thresholds of backwards compatibility breaks From: ajf@ajf.me (Andrea Faulds) > On 5 Nov 2014, at 20:34, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: >=20 > Regardless of those, I think it would be worse from the users POV than = our > current policy where we target no BC breaks in minor/micro versions. > The only exception should be security concerns (see the unserialize = changes > in 5.6 for such an example), which shows that usually BC breaks are = more > about the tradeoff, having a BC for a cornercase which probably nobody = will > notice but it will simplify the langspec/parser is a different kind of = BC > that switching the needle/haystack argument order or removing the = dollar > sign would cause. > Trying to compare or quantify those are hard, and they should be = decided on > their own merrit not how much open slot do we have. >=20 > Just my 2 cents ofc. Hmm. Wouldn=E2=80=99t allowing minor BC breaks in minor versions be = better than having BC breaks only in majors? Is it not easier to make = one or two small code changes each year, than to do a massive migration = every 5 years? -- Andrea Faulds http://ajf.me/