Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:78642 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 46861 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2014 14:51:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Nov 2014 14:51:25 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=kristopherwilson@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=kristopherwilson@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.223.169 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: kristopherwilson@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.223.169 mail-ie0-f169.google.com Received: from [209.85.223.169] ([209.85.223.169:39903] helo=mail-ie0-f169.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id CF/37-06676-CE7E8545 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 09:51:24 -0500 Received: by mail-ie0-f169.google.com with SMTP id tr6so7639432ieb.14 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 06:51:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=CrbC6MRoxGY2VUh1WprA17LvNiKj+IHTpR1PEOuGID4=; b=HQ/CqAkTlVwV4TVDDZb5TbWn8QQFYuLSUZAtCZs/DfCDOmjrbRIyu5m6/TyeMXGq7c Vtm7qFUvHcYRTldxnas+M7akZ0xTFgR17GLTgJrVT3j29gXhYUbeMwaPFjK1B2qAXw2r OuV4JK5U5IfHKFi5Z9r8PkJSFKt/zNDq4Lx6I+kZ0IvEYPYu3DUba5Kyesim8xEZhFRq 6jgDQfHOTH1e1ZFFUQibn9GHcnXBvngi0okYpF2bXD8yvvaZDeRUD5b3JoeLv8PxhUc6 01xbU3L3PTJ6+RtER+j3WONQILgnBcIVAZ4euxkAhULssqri0leSwoUkVFVtI/QN3uI5 Dn6Q== X-Received: by 10.50.142.104 with SMTP id rv8mr24412946igb.23.1415112681598; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 06:51:21 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <5458CEAF.7060204@lsces.co.uk> <5458D492.9040207@lsces.co.uk> <5458E306.50006@lsces.co.uk> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2014 14:51:21 +0000 Message-ID: To: Lester Caine , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c3db00b4388405070998ea Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Debugging code ... From: kristopherwilson@gmail.com (Kristopher) --001a11c3db00b4388405070998ea Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue Nov 04 2014 at 9:31:06 AM Lester Caine wrote: > > Every IDE I've used has always working nicely with docblock annotation > and typing and has provided the facilities people seem to think should > be built in to PHP. > You understand you don't have to use these new features, right? You can continue using comment-driven DocBlocks and not use any typing. They are purely optional features. To advocate not adding the features simply because you don't want them, when they are plenty of other people who do want them and do find a use for them, is pretty selfish. It's also pretty arrogant to assume your workflow and setup will work for everyone, and that they should just deal with it. --001a11c3db00b4388405070998ea--