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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Debugging code ...
From: florian@margaine.com (Florian Margaine)

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Hi,

On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 2:28 PM, Lester Caine <lester@lsces.co.uk> wrote:

> On 04/11/14 13:13, Florian Margaine wrote:
> >     On the basis of 'If it's not broken', what is actually broken, and
> what
> >     is just a matter of 'I don't like that way of working'?
> >
> >     I have a working Annotation system that has not changed since I
> started
> >     working with PHP. PHPEclise simple displays the information from the
> >     docblock comments and allows me to open the relevant file. I can then
> >     review the other functions available. I can update the material and
> have
> >     even resorted to porting files and adding extra notes when trying to
> >     decipher other peoples work.
> >
> >     The problem these days is that projects are stripping the docblock
> data
> >     as 'not the modern way of doing things' and we end up with code that
> >     does not work with the IDE. Fortunately DVCS systems have some other
> >     advantages and one can cherry pick code changes while maintaining a
> >     different style of working.
> >
> >     In addition to 'Annotation', there is a lot of discussion about
> adding
> >     types into the code. Having moved to using arrays to pass data to
> >     functions, the docblock material includes details on what is
> required in
> >     the hash, something that you will never get from any of the current
> >     discussions?
> >
> >     Just to add to the fun, PHPEclipse seems to have lost support and
> while
> >     I have learnt enough Java in the past to fix a few little niggles,
> >     currently it is unable to cope with a number of new developments in
> PHP
> >     so I'm stuck on just what IS the next move ... While it would be
> nice to
> >     get on with some new code, nothing is stable enough these days to
> allow
> >     that :(
> >
> > Right now, I'm afraid your emails looks like a rant more than anything
> > else. I'm absolutely certain that you have something interesting to say,
> > but the message just didn't get through. Could you elaborate?
>
> Just that what many of us have used for years is coming under increasing
> pressure as other people promote their own way of working. In the past
> we have been able to co-exist, but it is becoming increasingly difficult
> as people 'update' coding styles. Anything that is added to the 'core'
> WILL be used to update third party code, but the rest of the
> infrastructure is simply not keeping up.
>

I'm sorry... I may be stupid. I'm not sure I understand what you want to
say.

I have a guess though: are you saying that, for example, PHPEclipse at its
version from 2008 can't cope up with PHP at its version from 2014?


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Regards,

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Florian Margaine

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