Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:78634 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 28973 invoked from network); 4 Nov 2014 13:14:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 4 Nov 2014 13:14:20 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=florian@margaine.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=florian@margaine.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain margaine.com from 209.85.213.179 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: florian@margaine.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.213.179 mail-ig0-f179.google.com Received: from [209.85.213.179] ([209.85.213.179:43141] helo=mail-ig0-f179.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id B6/24-06676-B21D8545 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 08:14:20 -0500 Received: by mail-ig0-f179.google.com with SMTP id r10so6553296igi.0 for ; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 05:14:17 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=Sx5s0Vmtj7UKZoShULAAJlovSsOGgKtn2L7QlBuGQo4=; b=XqMBCp+Brm46fQJSRtHGYZfIjZV1l4uhUuYXCnvOOnONpxpEX2rqbZPUkjhu710dJo PJHNlzt6tN0R7PCp6Wm9qEXTlhMJQkaBY+M2fd6WyKsW2gEA6Vr3wGuWabZjzlRqoszn OGE5je0sADjYxeApUuZjuu8k6FpSBarV72rFLFoHTvD62oEZSNQw6XTV6sr3QZwDzKFJ 9WJ5eUKaK6LDXsGyZS71zCfD8Af4Mu5zqM0vKbzcdhYO/DV46bzLgUcvyWbrCQr4Rp93 y87r1JZzHpDDcC38wzmIgj31UIvClbIpID1fMkavYl+C+v/t/2sIc1WQ4AlrltreioBW kHeg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQk/2dTvxQl3lNg3iJstkj0Lfm1TRPsOdx1eJd97k6KT7xiGO0IFuuxu8xnR+NQS0xNJLzvz X-Received: by 10.42.87.6 with SMTP id w6mr47954366icl.10.1415106856037; Tue, 04 Nov 2014 05:14:16 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.31.149 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Nov 2014 05:13:55 -0800 (PST) X-Originating-IP: [90.42.228.19] In-Reply-To: <5458CEAF.7060204@lsces.co.uk> References: <5458CEAF.7060204@lsces.co.uk> Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 14:13:55 +0100 Message-ID: To: Lester Caine Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf301cc19c7940120507083d47 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Debugging code ... From: florian@margaine.com (Florian Margaine) --20cf301cc19c7940120507083d47 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 2:03 PM, Lester Caine wrote: > On the basis of 'If it's not broken', what is actually broken, and what > is just a matter of 'I don't like that way of working'? > > I have a working Annotation system that has not changed since I started > working with PHP. PHPEclise simple displays the information from the > docblock comments and allows me to open the relevant file. I can then > review the other functions available. I can update the material and have > even resorted to porting files and adding extra notes when trying to > decipher other peoples work. > > The problem these days is that projects are stripping the docblock data > as 'not the modern way of doing things' and we end up with code that > does not work with the IDE. Fortunately DVCS systems have some other > advantages and one can cherry pick code changes while maintaining a > different style of working. > > In addition to 'Annotation', there is a lot of discussion about adding > types into the code. Having moved to using arrays to pass data to > functions, the docblock material includes details on what is required in > the hash, something that you will never get from any of the current > discussions? > > Just to add to the fun, PHPEclipse seems to have lost support and while > I have learnt enough Java in the past to fix a few little niggles, > currently it is unable to cope with a number of new developments in PHP > so I'm stuck on just what IS the next move ... While it would be nice to > get on with some new code, nothing is stable enough these days to allow > that :( > Right now, I'm afraid your emails looks like a rant more than anything else. I'm absolutely certain that you have something interesting to say, but the message just didn't get through. Could you elaborate? > > -- > Lester Caine - G8HFL > ----------------------------- > Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact > L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk > EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ > Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk > Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > Regards, -- Florian Margaine --20cf301cc19c7940120507083d47--