Newsgroups: php.internals
Path: news.php.net
Xref: news.php.net php.internals:78586
Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm
Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain ajf.me designates 192.64.116.200 as permitted sender)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.0 \(1990.1\))
In-Reply-To: <5457D749.2010406@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2014 19:42:21 +0000
Cc: Robert Stoll <php@tutteli.ch>,
 PHP Internals <internals@lists.php.net>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Message-ID: <D1F3D794-AF39-4588-88B4-3D34515B7081@ajf.me>
References: <002601cff777$eb923430$c2b69c90$@tutteli.ch> <68518A5F-4A11-4D93-914D-760A4CB447E8@ajf.me> <5457D749.2010406@gmail.com>
To: Stas Malyshev <smalyshev@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Types on the right or on the left
From: ajf@ajf.me (Andrea Faulds)


> On 3 Nov 2014, at 19:28, Stas Malyshev <smalyshev@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> Hi!
>=20
>> PHP doesn=E2=80=99t need more inconsistency, sure, but we must be =
practical
>> here. It is bad if PHP and Hack have the same feature with different
>> syntax, it will cause developer confusion and further segment the
>> communities.
>=20
> Given that Hack is a different language, which was designed AFAIK with
> little input from PHP community, I don't see how there would be any
> confusion - it's like saying PHP and Perl or PHP and Java having
> different syntaxes leads to segmenting the communities.

This is an unfair comparison. Hack is a compatible superset of PHP, much =
like TypeScript is a compatible superset of JavaScript.

> In fact, there
> are two different communities - though, of course, people can belong =
to
> both - and two different languages. I do not think Hack syntax should
> have much weight in decisions about what syntax to choose in PHP - =
it's
> a different language, even though it has many similarities.

I=E2=80=99d rather there be less divergence between Hack and PHP, to =
limit the damage that it causes to the community.

--
Andrea Faulds
http://ajf.me/